[Year 12 IT Apps] Year 12 Info Tech

Thu Dec 8 14:33:48 EST 2011

How about the perennial golden odie:

There are 10 types of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

Boom boom!

Laurie Savage

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Travis Parker [Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 12:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Year 12 Info Tech

Ok that was a joke – My wife teaches Psych so I’m always getting into her about it! They are very protective of its status. I inform her that I studied Computer Science, so why aren’t we included?

Here is something to sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak next year in IT Apps. Start databases with……

“A SQL query walks into a bar. Up the other end are two tables. The query walks up to them and asks ‘Mind if I join you?’”

If the students don’t laugh then you should recommend they do another subject. When I told it I heard crickets!

Cheers

Trav

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 12:04 PM
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Hi Travis,

It doesn't matter what you or I or even your school thinks Psychology is. The VCAA says it is a Science subject.

I remember many years ago, 1967 to be exact, Geography was classed as both Science and Humanities at Form 5 to help kids satisfy course requirements. :-)

Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com<mailto:robert at yinnar.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Travis Parker<mailto:Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au>
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Year 12 Info Tech

Litsa - My school tends to have more students doing Psychology as it is a Science.

At best a pseudo-Science. We classify it as a Humanities subject!

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Mann, Warrick D
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 10:10 AM
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Hi All,,

As someone who still works in “real world” IT, I see the course as highly relevant.

As to “real info tech”, which IT stream are we talking about? Programming? Project Management? Systems Analyst? Systems Architect?

IT is Business management with specific set of skills – If IT cannot integrate successfully into a business, it will not be adopted effectively or run efficiently.

Warrick Mann

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Andrew Shortell
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 9:20 AM
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Perhaps we could move those business functions out of IT and into the business subjects because all subjects are supposed to have ICT and the business stuff is certainly not real computing science

Then we would be left with just computing in in the computing subject!!

The business people would be delighted because then they could teach it their way and teach “at the point of need to know” always a more effective way of ensuring students pay attention!

And we would all be happy because we could do real computing in the computing subject.

Andrew

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On 7/12/11 4:05 AM, "Mark Scott" <msc at luther.vic.edu.au<https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
It would kill the subject completely here at Luther.

Mark Scott
Luther College

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx> [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen [rgesthuizen at gmail.com<https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:40 PM
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Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Year 12 Info Tech

Here is an interesting question I could toss to this group to mull over.

When we consider the progressive declining enrollment in the year 12 IS and ITA, is there merit in a long term thought to combine the two into a single year 12 Info Tech subject?

No agenda, just plain old curious about your thoughts.

Regards Roland

On 6 December 2011 17:33, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com<https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
So let's get this back where it belongs! Or at least separate the ItApps and the SoftDev discussions.

Thanks folks!

Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com<https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>

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