[Year 12 IT Apps] Spreadsheet vs Database for U4O1

[Mark KELLY]

Disagree. U4O1 key knowledge is not database-driven. It applies equally to
SS.

On 5 December 2011 16:25, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:

> **
> No Mark you did not suggest that! But the U401 outcomes are essentially to
> do with databases, whatever the SD says.
>
> I just have a real problem with using a spreadsheet to do what is
> essentially database work. It is like using MS Word to do desktop
> publishing. Perhaps we are headed towards the MSicandoitall.exe that will
> do word processing, spreadsheets, databases, dtp, slide shows - and would
> you like fries with that?
>
> Please let's use appropriate software.
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF
> Ashwood and Traralgon
> robert at yinnar.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<itapps at edulists.com.au>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2011 3:30 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Spreadsheet vs Database for U4O1
>
> Hi Robert
>
> I don't use spreadsheets as databases... did I somehow suggest that?
>
> I've found the number of students having trouble with spreadsheets is *way
> * less than those having dB trouble - and their marks for U4O1 compared
> to U3O2 clearly reflect that.
>
> On 5 December 2011 15:14, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I have never been in favour of using a spreadsheet as a database. So would
>> really go for a RDBMS for U401 rather than spreadsheet software. Introduce
>> the RDBMS in year 11 and progress from  there. Sure some students have
>> problems with databases, but then the same students have trouble with
>> spreadsheets :-)
>>
>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF
>> Ashwood and Traralgon
>> robert at yinnar.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Scott" <msc at luther.vic.edu.au>
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:28 AM
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Spreadsheet vs Database for U4O1
>>
>>
>> > Dear all
>> >
>> > I am considering a move away from Spreadsheets for U4O1.
>> >
>> > It just seemed that the 2011 exam might have favoured those students who
>> > did Databases instead.
>> >
>> > What do people think?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > Mark Scott
>> > Luther College
>> >
>> > "The busier you get, the slower you walk" anon
>> >
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