[Year 12 IT Apps] [Year 12 SofDev] McKinnon classes 2011
Mark Scott
msc at luther.vic.edu.au
Fri Sep 10 14:49:14 EST 2010
I have seven in ITA next year and yes it is running
Mark Scott
Luther College
"The busier you get, the slower you walk" anon
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I agree, our classes got canned here.
IPM - which has ran every year that I have been here for is now not running for the first year next year. We have a combined year 11+12 class this year, and 5 in year 12 and 7 in year 11... is 12 enough for a subject at your schools?
Steve
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:18:40 +1000
From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [Year 12 SofDev] McKinnon classes 2011
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I'm with my year 11s at the moment and asked them why they opted for SD instead of ITA. A few mentioned that SD was more 'realistic' in terms of tertiary courses and careers. Meaning: it had a real benefit to them.
They suggested that ITA was pretty useless for anything practical beyond getting a mark for a VCE subject.
Don't shoot the messenger...
On 10 September 2010 11:01, Poultney, Gordon A < Poultney.Gordon.A at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
>
> In 2011 only 1x Sofdev and 1 x year 11 (just!) here. There will be
no
> ITA for the first time.
>
> Year 10 Game Design & Programming very well subscribed though.
> cheers
> gordon
>
> ----------------
> Gordon Poultney
> Horsham College
>
> ________________________________
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Fri 10/9/10 9:57
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] McKinnon classes 2011
>
>
>
> I do remember seeing some unimpressed expressions on the faces of
> prospective 2011 ITA candidates when they saw a summary of the new ITA
> course... the sort of look when you find you're getting toasted peanut
> butter sandwiches for Christmas lunch...
>
>
>
> On 10 September 2010 09:42, Harper, Glenda J <
> harper.glenda.j at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
>
> Same here at Carwatha
>
>
> Glenda Harper
> Educational Leader
> Carwatha College P-12
> harper.glenda.j at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:
> harper.glenda.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Ph: 9795 5848
> Fax: 9790 1712
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Margaret
Iaquinto
> Sent: Fri 10/09/2010 9:14 AM
> To: List, Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] McKinnon classes 2011
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>
>
> Same thing at this school. More kids in SD than ITA for 2011.
The
> Year 10 programming elective has always run so that's not the factor.
>
> But this school has had enrolments be as low as 5 for ITA and
as
> high as 19 (this year) in ITA.
>
> Yep. It's odd.
>
> Maggie
>
> Margaret Iaquinto
> Information Technology Coordinator
>
> St Leonard's College
> Brighton Campus
> t (+61 3) 9909 9300
>
> x 529
>
>
> www.stleonards.vicedu.au <http://www.stleonards.vicedu.au/> <
> http://www.stleonards.vic.edu.au/>
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> Alternate email: maggie at iaquinto.net
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>
> >>> Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> 9/10/2010 9:00 AM
>>>
> It's really odd!
>
> ITA, which has run continuously forever with good numbers has
barely
> scraped a class together for next year by combining year elevens and
twelves
> into one small ITA class.
>
> SD, which has only run every 3 or so years (with a small cohort
when
> it did run), is nearly over-subscribed.
>
> There don't seem to be any clear local causes for such a great
> change of attitude (e.g. changes of teachers or big changes in
middle-years
> IT offerings) so I can only put it down to either something in the
water, or
> the changes to the study design.
>
> To be fair, I haven't heard kids explicitly blaming the ITA
study
> design, and for some reason they seem dead keen on programming in our
year
> 10 Info Systems elective. My year 11 IT classes have been dead quiet
for 2
> weeks with the kids busily coding in VB6. Last year I had to beat them
with
> chairs to finish the VB material... this year I can sit up the front
folding
> paper aeroplanes and clipping my toenails while they beaver away and
sort
> out problems within their own ranks.
>
> Odd!
>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
> McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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> School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:50:19 +1000
From: "Jackson Bates" <bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Microsoft Security book (PDF) for teens
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Hi All,
Somewhat relevant for Apps, but may be of general interest in your schools too:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=87583728-ef1
4-4703-a649-0fd34bd19d13&displayLang=en
Microsoft have released a cyber safety book for teens. It's pretty big, but you can DL single chapters if you want.
Chapter list:
Chapter 1: Protect Your Turf
Chapter 2: Know Your Villains
Chapter 3: Nasty "ware"
Chapter 4: Hackers and Crackers
Chapter 5: Taking SPAM Off the Menu
Chapter 6: Cyberbullies
Chapter 7: Phishing for Dollars
Chapter 8: Safe Cyber Shopping
Chapter 9: Browsers Bite Back
Chapter 10: Private Blogs and Public Places Chapter 11: Going Social Chapter 12: Friends, Creeps and Pirates Chapter 13: Any Port in a Storm Chapter 14: Look Pa, No Strings!
Chapter 15: Getting Help
Chapter 16: Tweaks
Appendix A: A Note to Parents
Plus it's a CC licence - Way to go Micro$oft!
Hope you find it helpful.
Jackson Bates
Waverley Christian College
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