[Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 32

Thu Sep 9 15:18:25 EST 2010

....and then they moderate the exam results...

Zach Alexakos

On 9/09/10 2:34 PM, "Vera Cook" <vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Kent and everyone
> 
> I agree and you get so many complaints about the criteria in our sacs, I
> have had students who do university IT courses who do not have to do as
> much in assessment tasks as what they have had to do in sacs in IT and
> it reduces our numbers.
> 
> Vera
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
> Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 2:11 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 32
> 
> Hi Steven,
> your comment is one of the reasons I took up the VET Certs here.
> I often think that we(I) work our butt off to keep the kiddies in I.T
> during the middle school time and lose them at VCE when they see what
> the content is. This comment has also been echoed previously by others
> so I aint the first on that front.
> Personally, am looking to develop a programming stream for the crew
> moving to year 11 next year who are currently doing my Cert2 stuff...
> Its the nature of our subject..ever changing!!!!
> However, it can also be counter argued that the content taught in the
> Apps subject is valid in a commercial context on a variety of fronts
> too.
> Guess it just depends on which side of the fence ya jump from!
> 
> Apps?  Software? Hardware? Customer support? Other?...lots of possible
> debates and discussions can be had I guess..
> 
> KB.
> 
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Pearse, Steven S [pearse.steven.s at edumail.vic.gov.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:49 PM
> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 32
> 
> I totally agree, I just started marking mine. It is a mammoth job.
> 
> I really think that IT in general is not as interesting as it could be
> at VCE level. Access, excel and webpages are good, but I would like to
> see a TAFE style install the hard drive, load a O/S, create a RAID
> array, find out in practise what the jumper setting on a HD do. Although
> the resources at school's are prob not up to it, (I know they aren't
> here) maybe 1/4 outcomes could be on this...
> 
> You can still ask questions on theory of this in a exam setting also.
> 
> E.g. What is the default setting for a Hard Disk when no jumper is set?
> Or 'Outline the procedure for installing a hard disk into a machine'.
> There is so many case studies that could be modified to fit this
> scenario.
> 
> Jenny has come into your computer shop saying her computer doesn't work
> saying 'Hard disk error No operating system found' - what are some steps
> you can take to isolate the problem.... etc etc.
> Kids might finally know what a BSOD actually means, how to change a
> graphics card in a computer for those all important games that they want
> to play, and why when they install windows onto the wrong partition it
> costs them hours....
> 
> My late night rant...
> 
> 
> Steve pearse
> 
> 
> Trafalgar High School
> 
> 
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>    1. Re: U4O1 marker (Kevork Krozian)
>    2. Re: U4O1 marker (Russo, Frank R)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:24:30 +1000
> From: Kevork Krozian <K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
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> Hi Folks,
> 
>  What has hit me is the sheer size of SAC41 in comparison to SAC42.
> There is no way the comparative weights of these 2 SACs ( 60 vs 40 % )
> is reflected in the volume of work students have to produce. It is more
> like 80 vs 20 ......
> 
> Just my feedback for anyone who may have had a similar experience
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Kevork Krozian
> Digital Learning Manager
> Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au<mailto:k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au>
> Tel: 0419 356 034
> 
> ________________________________
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of Mark KELLY [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 1:18 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
> 
> Hi all.  As I plough through marking the mammoth U4O1, I thought I'd
> share my secret marking tool. I find it makes marking big SACs far
> easier (since I don't have to add mentally, or remember what I've found
> so far that is worth marks) and fairer since my marking scheme doesn't
> vary over time.
> 
> It's divided into the 3 tasks, and complex items like mockups and
> production have little sub-markers underneath for entering components of
> marks. This is handy where you find the relevant proof at different
> times and want to record (for example) that 'yes, he did use sheet
> protection so that's 1 mark' without having to juggle a lot of criteria
> in one's head at once.
> 
> It also gives 3 task totals for VASS result entry as well as % and
> outcome total out of 60.  If you later stick in your U4O2 test result,
> it gives your kids' U4 totals (also for VASS data entry).
> 
> Hope it helps
> 
> Regards
> Mark
> 
> Now to get onto task 2...
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
> McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
> School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> VCE IT Lecture notes: http://vceit.com
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> Korma: the philosophy that what you get out of a curry depends on what
> you put into it.
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> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:34:41 +1000
> From: "Russo, Frank R" <Russo.Frank.R at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
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> Are you suggesting we beef up Outcome 2 and actually build a network ?
> lol
> 
> 
> 
> Frank Russo
> 
> Mobile: 0409022197
> 
> Timetabler & Daily Organiser
> Teacher:- IT, Multimedia, Maths & Science.
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> AIC and Curriculum Committee Member
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> 
> Frankston North, Victoria, Australia
> 
> ________________________________
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 5:25 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> 
> 
>  What has hit me is the sheer size of SAC41 in comparison to SAC42.
> 
> There is no way the comparative weights of these 2 SACs ( 60 vs 40 % )
> is reflected in the volume of work students have to produce. It is more
> like 80 vs 20 ......
> 
> 
> 
> Just my feedback for anyone who may have had a similar experience
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Kevork Krozian
> Digital Learning Manager
> Forest Hill College
> 
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
> Tel: 0419 356 034
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of Mark KELLY [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 1:18 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
> 
> Hi all.  As I plough through marking the mammoth U4O1, I thought I'd
> share my secret marking tool. I find it makes marking big SACs far
> easier (since I don't have to add mentally, or remember what I've found
> so far that is worth marks) and fairer since my marking scheme doesn't
> vary over time.
> 
> It's divided into the 3 tasks, and complex items like mockups and
> production have little sub-markers underneath for entering components of
> marks. This is handy where you find the relevant proof at different
> times and want to record (for example) that 'yes, he did use sheet
> protection so that's 1 mark' without having to juggle a lot of criteria
> in one's head at once.
> 
> It also gives 3 task totals for VASS result entry as well as % and
> outcome total out of 60.  If you later stick in your U4O2 test result,
> it gives your kids' U4 totals (also for VASS data entry).
> 
> Hope it helps
> 
> Regards
> Mark
> 
> Now to get onto task 2...
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
> McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
> School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
> VCE IT Lecture notes: http://vceit.com
> Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List
> 
> Korma: the philosophy that what you get out of a curry depends on what
> you put into it.
> 
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