[Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 32
Vera Cook
vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au
Thu Sep 9 14:34:08 EST 2010
Hi Kent and everyone
I agree and you get so many complaints about the criteria in our sacs, I
have had students who do university IT courses who do not have to do as
much in assessment tasks as what they have had to do in sacs in IT and
it reduces our numbers.
Vera
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 2:11 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 32
Hi Steven,
your comment is one of the reasons I took up the VET Certs here.
I often think that we(I) work our butt off to keep the kiddies in I.T
during the middle school time and lose them at VCE when they see what
the content is. This comment has also been echoed previously by others
so I aint the first on that front.
Personally, am looking to develop a programming stream for the crew
moving to year 11 next year who are currently doing my Cert2 stuff...
Its the nature of our subject..ever changing!!!!
However, it can also be counter argued that the content taught in the
Apps subject is valid in a commercial context on a variety of fronts
too.
Guess it just depends on which side of the fence ya jump from!
Apps? Software? Hardware? Customer support? Other?...lots of possible
debates and discussions can be had I guess..
KB.
Kent Beveridge
ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
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behalf of Pearse, Steven S [pearse.steven.s at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 32
I totally agree, I just started marking mine. It is a mammoth job.
I really think that IT in general is not as interesting as it could be
at VCE level. Access, excel and webpages are good, but I would like to
see a TAFE style install the hard drive, load a O/S, create a RAID
array, find out in practise what the jumper setting on a HD do. Although
the resources at school's are prob not up to it, (I know they aren't
here) maybe 1/4 outcomes could be on this...
You can still ask questions on theory of this in a exam setting also.
E.g. What is the default setting for a Hard Disk when no jumper is set?
Or 'Outline the procedure for installing a hard disk into a machine'.
There is so many case studies that could be modified to fit this
scenario.
Jenny has come into your computer shop saying her computer doesn't work
saying 'Hard disk error No operating system found' - what are some steps
you can take to isolate the problem.... etc etc.
Kids might finally know what a BSOD actually means, how to change a
graphics card in a computer for those all important games that they want
to play, and why when they install windows onto the wrong partition it
costs them hours....
My late night rant...
Steve pearse
Trafalgar High School
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:24:30 +1000
From: Kevork Krozian <K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
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Hi Folks,
What has hit me is the sheer size of SAC41 in comparison to SAC42.
There is no way the comparative weights of these 2 SACs ( 60 vs 40 % )
is reflected in the volume of work students have to produce. It is more
like 80 vs 20 ......
Just my feedback for anyone who may have had a similar experience
Kind Regards
Kevork Krozian
Digital Learning Manager
Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au<mailto:k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au>
Tel: 0419 356 034
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Behalf Of Mark KELLY [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 1:18 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
Hi all. As I plough through marking the mammoth U4O1, I thought I'd
share my secret marking tool. I find it makes marking big SACs far
easier (since I don't have to add mentally, or remember what I've found
so far that is worth marks) and fairer since my marking scheme doesn't
vary over time.
It's divided into the 3 tasks, and complex items like mockups and
production have little sub-markers underneath for entering components of
marks. This is handy where you find the relevant proof at different
times and want to record (for example) that 'yes, he did use sheet
protection so that's 1 mark' without having to juggle a lot of criteria
in one's head at once.
It also gives 3 task totals for VASS result entry as well as % and
outcome total out of 60. If you later stick in your U4O2 test result,
it gives your kids' U4 totals (also for VASS data entry).
Hope it helps
Regards
Mark
Now to get onto task 2...
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Mark Kelly
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
VCE IT Lecture notes: http://vceit.com
Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List
Korma: the philosophy that what you get out of a curry depends on what
you put into it.
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:34:41 +1000
From: "Russo, Frank R" <Russo.Frank.R at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
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Are you suggesting we beef up Outcome 2 and actually build a network ?
lol
Frank Russo
Mobile: 0409022197
Timetabler & Daily Organiser
Teacher:- IT, Multimedia, Maths & Science.
AEU Branch President
AIC and Curriculum Committee Member
Frankston North, Victoria, Australia
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 5:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
Hi Folks,
What has hit me is the sheer size of SAC41 in comparison to SAC42.
There is no way the comparative weights of these 2 SACs ( 60 vs 40 % )
is reflected in the volume of work students have to produce. It is more
like 80 vs 20 ......
Just my feedback for anyone who may have had a similar experience
Kind Regards
Kevork Krozian
Digital Learning Manager
Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
________________________________
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
Behalf Of Mark KELLY [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 1:18 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] U4O1 marker
Hi all. As I plough through marking the mammoth U4O1, I thought I'd
share my secret marking tool. I find it makes marking big SACs far
easier (since I don't have to add mentally, or remember what I've found
so far that is worth marks) and fairer since my marking scheme doesn't
vary over time.
It's divided into the 3 tasks, and complex items like mockups and
production have little sub-markers underneath for entering components of
marks. This is handy where you find the relevant proof at different
times and want to record (for example) that 'yes, he did use sheet
protection so that's 1 mark' without having to juggle a lot of criteria
in one's head at once.
It also gives 3 task totals for VASS result entry as well as % and
outcome total out of 60. If you later stick in your U4O2 test result,
it gives your kids' U4 totals (also for VASS data entry).
Hope it helps
Regards
Mark
Now to get onto task 2...
--
Mark Kelly
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253
kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
VCE IT Lecture notes: http://vceit.com
Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List
Korma: the philosophy that what you get out of a curry depends on what
you put into it.
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