[Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1

Wed Sep 1 09:08:19 EST 2010

Your best bet would be to use the Ultranet, as it incorporates elearning
with social networking facilities (though due to privacy issues, students
don't have a "wall" anymore - I guess they don't trust their "secure online
portal" enough? ;)  ). Otherwise, I'd use a ning.

It would be hard to analyse/evaluate the true use and impact of social
networking sites - any interference of observation/monitoring by a school or
teacher or selected students in say, a Facebook group would automatically
change the behaviour of students using it.   Moderating has a way of
restricting freedom of thought and speech. You can do it without them
knowing but that leads to privacy issues.  

I'm not sure what my point is or if I'm making any sense - I haven't had any
coffee yet ;)

James Lee

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   1. Re: social networking sites(facebook etc).. (Roland Gesthuizen)
   2. Re: HTML5 demo site (Mark KELLY)

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:26:42 +1000
From: Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] social networking sites(facebook etc)..
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Fascinating .. has anybody else use Diaspora?

On a different slant, has anybody else set up a Facebook page for their
school? I have an idea that it may be similar to what many here have done
with Wikipedia. I am in non hurry, the school secretary can tip-toe across
this line .. just looking for some pointers that can be passed on.

Regards Roland

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:26 PM, WEIR Andrew <
andrew.weir at thomascarr.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Kent,
> I guess social networking is the area of technology that the brave will
> lead the rest of us through.
> Unfortunately, I have been scarred many times by these systems and not
> because of my self but people associated with me not having good
> security, or sensibility.
>
> I guess that's why my last post was so rushed and mistyped.
>
> I did remember hearing about an open source version of facebook called
> diaspora starting soon, which has much higher levels of security but as
> yet I am still waiting to see how easy it is to configure. Also I did
> not find the Privacy Policy for this new system. However I did find the
> article now.
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/26/diaspora-facebook/
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Weir
>
> Information Technology Co-ordinator
>
> Thomas Carr College
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
> Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 4:00 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] social networking sites(facebook etc)..
>
> Thanks for the tip Ben, just doing an investigation at this point to see
> what surfaces.
>
> Tell ya what though...its really interesting in the range of responses
> at both ends of the spectrum!
>
> For others reading this...please keep the comments rolling in..its got
> potential!
>
> thanks heaps guys and gals out there..
>
> KB.
>
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Ben Hines [b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au]
> Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 12:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] social networking sites(facebook etc)..
>
> >From my understanding of the way VIT looks at Facebook and similar
> sites, it is a dangerous idea to use facebook in the classroom. Due to
> their understanding of the professional relationship between students
> and teachers.
>
> Be Careful how you use the social media in the classroom...
>
> Ben Hines
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
> Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 12:42 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] social networking sites(facebook etc)..
>
> Has anyone used these Facebook or similar sites as a 'contemporary
> learning too' ?
> What sort of responses has it had?
> What type of strategies for its use were implemented (or discussed) ?
> Other ideas....
>
> I am looking/considering this option as to 'embrace' some of the social
> technologies being used presently. Have had a brief chat with my
> principal on the matter and he asked me to do some investigation on the
> matter.
>
> So, colleagues out there, what are some of your experiences, plusses,
> minuses, interestings???
>
> Please email responses as I am compiling an electronic folder of this
> information for a presentation.
> Am also happy to look at professional reading of published papers on
> this matter.
>
> Thanks..
> KB.
>
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Paul Golub [golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au]
> Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 11:22 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 4 Outcome 2 IT apps
>
> I do the same. I give my students 1 period (75 mins). Closed book test.
> Good exam prep.
>
> Paul Golub
> Santa Maria College
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>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Ben Hines b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:41:25 +1000
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 4 Outcome 2 IT apps
>
> I agree, and I plan to get them to do it without an open book or test,
> for good exam prep!
>
> Thanks Guys
>
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 10:36 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 4 Outcome 2 IT apps
>
> I give them 2 periods (95 min) but rarely do they need it all.
>
> I never let them use cheat sheets, notes or texts; they can't use them
> in the exam and U4O2 is prime exam practice.
>
> I find the only time to let them have open book tests is when the books
> are pretty well useless anyway.
>
> Open-book tests are not a good practice, I reckon.
> The weaker kids spend most of their time desperately looking things up.
> The better kids don't use the books because they know the material.
>
> In short, if they need the books, they're not ready for the test.
>
> 2.2 cents' and worth every bit of it.  ;-)
> On 30 August 2010 10:13, Ben Hines
> <b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au<mailto:b.hines at ccg.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
> Hi ICT People,
>
> I have had a look at some sample Outcome 2 tasks, which are a case study
> with about 10 questions relating to data security and legal
> responsibility.
>
> How long do you give the students to complete this task? 2 periods?
>
> Also the students are asking me if it is open book? What's the go there?
>
> Thanks from a first half year IT Apps teacher!
>
> Ben Hines
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 08:01:17 +1000
From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] HTML5 demo site
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Thanks for that.

Cool, and spooky!  Works fine in Firefox 3.6.8.

On 31 August 2010 21:33, Natalie H <natinga71 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Sort of off-topic, but this is where web design is probably/possibly
> going... and it's just too cool not to share. Estimated release of HTML5
is
> 2012.
>
> This is a Google prototype. You may have issues with browser compatibility
> - it works fine in Chrome (predictably) and Safari, but seems to be
unstable
> or cause problems in Firefox and IE. Haven't tried any others yet, nor
have
> I tested extensively.
>
> Enjoy....
>
> http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/
>
> ------------------------------
> Natalie Heath (Parade College)
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