[Year 12 IT Apps] Those email "footnotes"

Fri Mar 13 18:50:40 EST 2009

Will digest and reply!

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "malcolm" <mjarb at iname.com>
To: "'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'" 
<itapps at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Those email "footnotes"

> Hi Robert,
>
> I still state it is legal.
>
> "My original question was about the specific sentence "You must not 
> disclose
> or use the information in this email if you are not the intended
> recipient.""
>
> Which is part of a copyright statement - and as I understand it - you can 
> if
> you own the copyright restrict an emails distribution.  The following is 
> an
> extract from www.copyright.com.au which I posted last time.
>
> "Copyright does not prevent the disclosure of information or the use of 
> that
>
> information so long as that use is within the copyright laws."
>
> It can.
>
> Can I forward emails containing copyright material?
> If you forward an email containing copyright material to a third party you
> may be infringing
> copyright. This is because forwarding an email constitutes a communication
> to the public. So
> before forwarding any email that has been sent to you, you should check it
> for a copyright
> statement, or if none exists, it may be wise to seek permission from the
> owner of the
> copyright material contained in the email.
>
> Is your work protected?
> Copyright is free and automatic. You don't have to pay for it and you 
> don't
> have to ask for it. The moment you create your work it is protected by
> copyright (provided it is sufficiently original). In Australia, copyright
> protection will usually last until 70 years after the death of the 
> creator.
> This protection extends to almost all material found on the internet.
> Material that is copyright
> protected includes:
> . written material - including e-books, website text, newspaper articles,
> emails, computer
> programs and song lyrics;
>
> What are my rights?
> The Copyright Amendment (Digital Agenda) Act 2000 gives copyright owners
> certain exclusive
> rights for the electronic use of their materials.
> These include:
> . the right to reproduce the material eg: print the material or save it 
> onto
> a disk; and
> . the right to communicate the material to the public eg: post the 
> material
> on a website, or
> email the material to other parties.
>
> "I decide to forward Fred's email to lots of other people."
>
> Under the Act you also have the right to pursue legal action against any
> individual that infringes your copyright. From 2007, penalties for
> infringement of digital copyright protection
> measures will increase in severity.
>
> Regards
> Malcolm
>
> ============================================================================
> =======
> Malcolm Carson
> email: mjarb at iname.com
> ============================================================================
> =======
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:28 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Those email "footnotes"
>
> My original question was about the specific sentence "You must not 
> disclose
> or use the information in this email if you are not the intended 
> recipient."
>
> Copyright does not prevent the disclosure of information or the use of 
> that
> information so long as that use is within the copyright laws.
>
> So I get an email from Fred, that was not intended for me. But that email
> contains information about some weird activities by Bert.
>
> The email contains a footer  saying
>
> "You must not disclose or use the information in this email if you are not
> the intended recipient."
>
> I decide to forward Fred's email to lots of other people.
>
> ???
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> Ashwood and Traralgon
> robert at yinnar.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "malcolm" <mjarb at iname.com>
> To: "'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'"
> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Those email "footnotes"
>
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Very Legal.
>>
>> As each email can be construed as a work of intellectual property by the
>> person creating said email, it falls under works of copyright.  The
>> disclaimers at the bottom are just highlighting the fact about the
>> possibility of that document being a copyrighted work and how the author
>> would like it to be viewed.
>>
>> Refer to
>>
> http://www.copyright.com.au/info%20sheets/PA20_copyright%20and%20the%20inter
>> net.pdf
>> For information.
>>
>> Note I don't have a footer on mine as it is meant for the public domain.
>> If
>> I didn't want the information forwarded, then I would have a footer
>> indicating what the distribution rights of the document should be limited
>> to.
>>
>> Regards
>> Malcolm
>>
>>
> ============================================================================
>> =======
>> Malcolm Carson
>> email: mjarb at iname.com
>>
> ============================================================================
>> =======
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Robert
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:51 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Those email "footnotes"
>>
>> Many of us have footnotes at the end of our emails that read something
>> like
>> (and this is from my last email from Kent Beveridge via the ita list)
>>
>> "This email and any attachments may be confidential.  You must not
>> disclose
>> or use the information in this email if you are not the intended
>> recipient.
>> If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately 
>> and
>> delete the email and all copies.  The School does not guarantee that this
>> email is virus or error free.  The attached files are provided and my 
>> only
>> be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any
>> loss,
>> damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of 
>> the
>> attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not.
>> The
>> content and opinions in this email are not necessarily those of the
>> School."
>>
>> Now some of this is fine.  But I wonder about the statement
>>
>> "You must not disclose or use the information in this email if you are 
>> not
>> the intended recipient."
>>
>> Legality?
>>
>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
>> Ashwood and Traralgon
>> robert at yinnar.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kent Beveridge" <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:45 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Security for SACS
>>
>>
>>>I think from memory, you can 'isolate' IP addresses from functioning in
>>>Netware for your need, Kushum, just cant off the top of my head, remember
>>>how. Sorry mate.
>>>
>>> Kent Beveridge,
>>> I.C.T. co-ordinator
>>> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
>>> http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/ <http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/>
>>> Horsham Ph (03) 5382 3545
>>> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>>> "This email and any attachments may be confidential.  You must not
>>> disclose or use the information in this email if you are not the 
>>> intended
>>> recipient.  If you have received this email in error, please notify us
>>> immediately and delete the email and all copies.  The School does not
>>> guarantee that this email is virus or error free.  The attached files 
>>> are
>>> provided and my only be used on the basis that the user assumes all
>>> responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or
>>> indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the
>>> negligence of the sender or not.  The content and opinions in this email
>>> are not necessarily those of the School."
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Rattan, Kushum L
>>> Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 1:54 PM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Security for SACS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have been doing this for quite sometime. However the students are
>>> able to use many forms of communication once they are on the computers.
>>> Is there any way to disable the Internet connection in a particular room
>>> for the duration of the SAC. We use Novell Netware.
>>>
>>> Kushum Rattan
>>> IT Co-ordinator
>>> Gisborne Secondary College
>>> Melton Road , Gisborne 3437
>>> Phone: (03) 5428 3691
>>> rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Philip Pike
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2009 3:26 PM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Security for SACS
>>>
>>> At my last school we created folders on a drive with a batch file to
>>> turn
>>> on and off access rights by the teacher. I can send the batch files to
>>> anyone who is interested.
>>> At the current school, students save to a USB stick, which I hold for
>>> the
>>> duration of the SAC.
>>>
>>> Phil Pike
>>> Director of ICT
>>> Bacchus Marsh Grammar
>>> 03 53664800
>>>
>>>> Claire
>>>>
>>>> I had our technicians create new usernames and new home folders for my
>>>> class that are only usable during SAC time.
>>>>
>>>> I enable the usernames after the SAC and disable them just before the
>>>> SCA.
>>>>
>>>> I of course I have full access to these folders so I can keep an eye
>>> on
>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> With thanks
>>>>
>>>> Michael Torsello
>>>>
>>>> Director of Computing
>>>>
>>>> St Margaret's School, Berwick
>>>> Berwick Grammar School, Officer
>>>>
>>>> Ph: (03) 9703 8111
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Claire McGroarty
>>>> Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 2:39 PM
>>>> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
>>>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Security for SACS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering of the procedures used when saving files during SACS -
>>>> would really like to organize a special area where students can only
>>>> access the documents during SACS time but not sure the best way to go
>>>> about it.  At the moment files are saved in the student network which
>>>> means they can be accessed out with the SAC times.  Is anyone out
>>> there
>>>> already doing something similar and if so can I have some suggestions
>>>> please!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Claire
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Pike
>>> Director of ICT
>>> Bacchus Marsh Grammar
>>> 03 53664800
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