[Year 12 IT Apps] Static Web sites

Fri Apr 3 10:47:01 EST 2009

Whether you use drupal, joomla or any other cms, there is still a requirement to build solid html/css and both dreamweaver and expression do this exceptionally well. 

A CMS is NOT a replacement for a web editor. A CMS is used to add functionality and allow those without html knowledge to edit content without destroying the design.

Dreamweaver (and its competitors)  is still an essential tool...whether building static sites or not

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Algie, Ross [ralgie at mcmedia.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:52 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Static Web sites

As part of its review of the new Adobe Dreamweaver a month or so back, PC
Pro magazine (an English publication) noted that no matter how well
companies like Adobe dressed up traditional web apps such as Dreamweaver,
their days are effectively over simply because they cannot compete with
content management systems. Drupal was cited as one of the growing number of
compelling alternatives. No doubt schools here will continue to persevere
with Frontpage and Dreamweaver because the alternatives will be too
difficult to organise within current structures.
While on the one hand we're encouraged to join the digital revolution,
central policies and practices are in fact antithetical to this.

Cheers
Ross Algie
Mooroopna Secondary College

Roland Gesthuizen writes:

> Yes, they cracked a huge wobbly here. Am just recovering from the huge punch
> up that resulted and only called timeout by rolling back to FrontPage. We
> will now instead migrate to our Drupal server. Once I finish dressing it up
> and get some staff trained, this will go live.
>       http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au -->
> http://drupal.westallsc.vic.edu.au(draft)
>
> Interesting thought .. one of my more learned colleagues suggested that as
> many organisations are now using various flavours of content management
> systems to publish their resources, perhaps building large and integrated
> website with tools like Web Expressions, Dream Weaver etc is now of
> accademic value only. It makes as much sense as building a car by hand with
> a mechano set when you can subcontract the work to a mechanised auto plant.
>
> Regards Roland
>
> PS: There are some excellent drupal training courses running in Melbourne. I
> am happy to cross post some details.
>
> 2009/4/2 Toet, Rikki L <toet.rikki.l at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>
>>  Hi Kent,
>>
>> From what I’ve seen of Web Expressions it is similar to MS FrontPage, but
>> allows you to do more complex things. For example, I caught one of the very
>> bright students using it to create a proxy server so he can bypass all of
>> the school server settings. On the other hand, it doesn’t have the simple
>> things, such as navigation view.
>>
>>
>>
>> The rest of the IT staff here have complained about it as all of their
>> resources are for FrontPage. We are in the process of trying to get it back
>> on the network.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Rikki
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
>> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Kent Beveridge
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 April 2009 8:50 AM
>> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 3 O2 Resources
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rikki,
>>
>> can you give us some feedback about 'expressions' easy to use, easy to
>> teach,...easy to LEARN?  I am considering getting it here for next year.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Kent.
>>
>>
>>
>> ps..combined class eh? personally, I find that challenging..been there!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Kent Beveridge**,*
>>
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>> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Toet, Rikki L
>> *Sent:* Wed 4/1/2009 2:59 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 3 O2 Resources
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am currently teaching at Grovedale College and this year is my first
>> time teaching IT Apps and 11 IT (It is a combined class so I started
>> with Outcome 2 for Unit 1). I will be starting U3O2 and U1O1 after the
>> holidays and we have just changed from MS FrontPage to Web Expressions
>> 2. Due to this, I have next to nothing in the way of resources. Can
>> anyone help me out with exercises, worksheets, SACs, etc. or even advice
>> on what to do and where I can get resources from.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Rikki Toet
>> Grovedale College
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