[Year 12 IT Apps] RE:Google tools
murch at tpg.com.au
murch at tpg.com.au
Wed Nov 5 17:30:38 EST 2008
Thank you to Ken for clarifying the age issue in using google docs. I am relieved with your reponse.
Anne Mirtschin
Hawkesdale P12 College
Quoting ken price <kenjprice at gmail.com>:
> There doesn't appear to be an age issue from Google's perspective, as
> they
> offer services specifically to schools.eg
> http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/edu/customers.html
>
> Of some relevance is that the entire NSW education departmetnt (one
> of the
> largest education systems in the world) has decided to switch its
> entire 1.3
> million student email accounts to a Google-provided service
> http://blog.devnet.com.au/index.php/google-apps/nsw-education-grows-with-google-apps
>
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/technology/who-is-googles-biggest-
client/2008/07/29/1217097282429.html
> I'm not sure if these Gmail accounts work like the usual Google
> accounts,
> given you access to all their tools.
>
> There may of course be age conditions for individual education
> systems.
>
> The other aspect of Google services is the storage - I don't know of
> many
> schools who can offer every student 6 Gigabytes of online storage,
> accessible at home or school. And that all you need to access this
> range of
> applications is a computer with a browser - this can be provided with
> an
> open-source OS with no licensing costs and no software installations
> on home
> computers (with associated questions of legality)
>
> These issues are relevant not only in delivering the IT Apps course,
> but
> perhaps merit student discussion within it?
>
> We live in interesting times..
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> Ken Price
> President, TASITE www.tasite.tas.edu.au
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Alex Hopkins
> <a.hopkins at bcc.vic.edu.au>wrote:
>
> > Is it in fact a requirement, though? It seems to me that this is
> > important, as it would make a substantial difference to our
> teaching
> > practices. I use Google docs, etc with year 9s, who certainly
> aren't 18! I
> > don't have a year 12 group this year, but when I saw Bill's idea I
> thought
> > it an excellent one for the group that I will have next year. So
> could we
> > have any clarification on this matter?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alex Hopkins
> > Bayside Christian College
> >
> > > Thanks, Anne.
> > >
> > > I was not aware of the minimum 18 year old age requirement.
> > >
> > > I guess I will confine it to my class where the students are all
> over 18
> > > years old.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the heads up.
> > >
> > > Regards, Bill Oldham (sessional teacher at Chisholm TAFE and VU)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > > On Behalf Of murch at tpg.com.au
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2008 9:03 PM
> > > To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE:Google tools
> > >
> > > I love your idea Bill, and use google substantially. If you set
> up an
> > > igoogle page, most of these tools can be accessed quickly, so add
> in
> > > reader, notebook, todo etc as well.
> > > However, do students have to be 18 years of age to use all this.
> I am not
> > > certain but thought I read somewhere that was the case.
> > > Anne Mirtschin
> > > Hawkesdale P12 College
> > >
> > > Quoting Bill Oldham <billo at kew.hotkey.net.au>:
> > >
> > >> Is anyone considering using the Google tools that are now
> available
> > >> to use
> > >> in all the SACs for next year except the database one?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This year I started with a Google account. I began with Gmail,
> Gtalk,
> > >> and
> > >> Ggroups.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This lead into using Blogger, Google images and Picasa.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Then came the online versions of a word processor, spreadsheet
> and
> > >> web page
> > >> creator programs as part of Google docs.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Timelines were developed in a rough sense using Google Calendar
> and
> > >> Google
> > >> docs spreadsheet.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Add to this a start of using PBwiki, YouTube and Google
> toolbar.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It seems like most of ITA in 2009 could be covered using Google
> tools
> > >> and be
> > >> completely online.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What do you think?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards, Bill Oldham (sessional teacher at Chisholm TAFE and
> VU)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
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