[Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change

Thu Mar 22 13:36:12 EST 2007

Interesting, can you tell me about the following? I am curious from a 
Coordinators point of view.
Do you *make* students get an external account?
How do you maintain groups and global addresses? How do you send an 
email to all Year 8's for example?
Can you guarantee the security and integrity of your emails if you are 
transmitting student feedback or results?
Can you guarantee that the external provider won't divulge this 
information if a student makes a poor choice of provider?
How do you comply with:

8.3 Use of DE&T ICT systems is provided to users on condition that it is 
agreed that DE&T ICT systems are monitored in accordance with this 
Policy. Use of DE&T ICT systems constitutes consent to monitoring in 
accordance with this Policy.

8.4 If at any time there is a reasonable belief that DE&T ICT systems 
are being used in breach of this Policy, the principal or line manager 
of the person who is suspected of using DE&T ICT systems inappropriately 
may suspend a person’s use of DE&T ICT systems and may require that the 
equipment being used by the person be secured by the principal or 
general manager while the suspected breach is being investigated.

Cheers
Cameron

Stephen Digby wrote:
> We have gone exactly opposite direction....
> School provision of email accounts is an unnecessary duplication of 
> superior free services provided by major world players. School 
> services will (and are in my experience and research) inevitably 
> underutilised EXCEPT where virtually all crucial information for 
> students is available ONLY through the same web interface (as 
> universities do) with no capacity for external pop3 collection etc..
> The over head for schools is not much technically as mail servers are 
> a cinch, but administratively and legally it is a potential black 
> hole. ANY issue arising from emails directed through the school 
> servers is the LEGAL responsibility of the school whether they relate 
> to school issues or not, whether they are sent in school time or not. 
> This is not a problem for uni where there are fewer "adolescent" 
> issues, less hysteria from parents and more recourse to effective 
> sanctions such as the police and course cancellation etc.
> We do not want to take on responsibility for what is effectively the 
> modern equivalent of the mail system when such systems are already 
> freely available.
>
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Dave & Marree 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 March 2007 10:35 AM
> *To:* 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change
>
> We have blocked all personal email accounts, which force the students 
> to use their school email. The problem with external email accounts is 
> that they can send email anonymously with minimal chance of tracing 
> who the mail is from. Forcing them to use school email allows your 
> administrators to track the mail sent, minimise plagiarism as they can 
> check their account, etc.
>
> The kids are quite annoyed but I believe it is a necessary measure and 
> am weathering the storm at the moment.
>
> Dave
> The King David School
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Mark Scott
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 March 2007 9:30 AM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change
>
> Michael
>
> Do your kids use/check their school email or do you use their personal 
> (hotmail etc) email addresses?
>
> We have trouble here getting students to use their school email.
>
> Mark Scott
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> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Brendyn Hancock
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 March 2007 9:17 AM
> *To:* itapps at edulists.com.au
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change
>
> Michael
>
> Your blunder may be just the catalyst to start a thread on how schools 
> communicate with there students.
>
> It would appear that you communicating with your students via email is 
> a very 'normal' thing for you.
>
> How do others see this? Progressive or 'normal'?
>
> Regards
>
> Brendyn
>
> Brendyn Hancock
>
> IT Manager
>
> bhancock at nagle.sale.catholic.edu.au 
> <mailto:bhancock at nagle.sale.catholic.edu.au>
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> >>> "Michael Torsello (Mr)" <michael at stmargarets.vic.edu.au> 22/03/2007 
> 8:51 am >>>
> My sincere apologies - my fingers slipped.
> Please ignore my blunder.
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> Michael Torsello
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> From: Michael Torsello (Mr)
> Sent: Thu 22/03/2007 8:48 AM
> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
> Subject: room change
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>
> Hello girls
> Don't forget that today in period 3 to go to the library and try to 
> complete as much of the practice SAC as you can.
> I will be impressed if you get to start making the database (after 
> completing the Gantt chart and the designs of course).
>
> Also don't forget to send me your journal entry. Kadence, I haven't 
> received any from you yet.
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> PS Tash, I met your father yesterday.
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