[Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change

Thu Mar 22 12:44:26 EST 2007

We have gone exactly opposite direction....
School provision of email accounts is an unnecessary duplication of superior free services provided by major
world players.  School services will (and are in my experience and research) inevitably underutilised EXCEPT
where virtually all crucial information for students is available ONLY through the same web interface (as
universities do) with no capacity for external pop3 collection etc..
The over head for schools is not much technically as mail servers are a cinch, but administratively and
legally it is a potential black hole.  ANY issue arising from emails directed through the school servers is
the LEGAL responsibility of the school whether they relate to school issues or not, whether they are sent in
school time or not.  This is not a problem for uni where there are fewer "adolescent" issues, less hysteria
from parents and more recourse to effective sanctions such as the police and course cancellation etc.
We do not want to take on responsibility for what is effectively the modern equivalent of the mail system when
such systems are already freely available.

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Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
mailto:admin at cheltsec.vic.edu.au 
Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Dave & Marree
Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2007 10:35 AM
To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change

We have blocked all personal email accounts, which force the students to use their school email. The problem
with external email accounts is that they can send email anonymously with minimal chance of tracing who the
mail is from. Forcing them to use school email allows your administrators to track the mail sent, minimise
plagiarism as they can check their account, etc.

The kids are quite annoyed but I believe it is a necessary measure and am weathering the storm at the moment.

Dave
The King David School

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Scott
Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2007 9:30 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change

Michael

Do your kids use/check their school email or do you use their personal (hotmail etc) email addresses?

We have trouble here getting students to use their school email.

Mark Scott

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brendyn Hancock
Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2007 9:17 AM
To: itapps at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change

Michael

Your blunder may be just the catalyst to start a thread on how schools communicate with there students.

It would appear that you communicating with your students via email is a very 'normal' thing for you.

How do others see this? Progressive or 'normal'?

Regards

Brendyn

Brendyn Hancock

IT Manager

bhancock at nagle.sale.catholic.edu.au

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Nagle College

5152 6122

Bairnsdale VIC 3875 

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>>> "Michael Torsello (Mr)" <michael at stmargarets.vic.edu.au> 22/03/2007 8:51 am >>>
My sincere apologies - my fingers slipped.
Please ignore my blunder.

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With Thanks
Michael Torsello
Director of Computing
St Margaret's School
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From: Michael Torsello (Mr)
Sent: Thu 22/03/2007 8:48 AM
To: itapps at edulists.com.au
Subject: room change

Hello girls
Don't forget that today in period 3 to go to the library and try to complete as much of the practice SAC as
you can.
I will be impressed if you get to start making the database (after completing the Gantt chart and the designs
of course).

Also don't forget to send me your journal entry. Kadence, I haven't received any from you yet.

PS Tash, I met your father yesterday.

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Michael Torsello
Director of Computing
St Margaret's School
Ph: (03) 9703 8111

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