[Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes

Tue Feb 6 14:53:22 EST 2007

"Tis a sad day.  I enjoyed your post mortems Mark.

Regards

Caroline Thomas

Baimbridge College, Hamilton
85 Stephen Street
HAMILTON  VIC 3300
Ph 03 5572 2788
Fax 03 5572 5811

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
Sent: Mon 05-February-2007 9:30 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes

I'm staying out of it for the time being.

It's the decision of VCAA's copyright officer, Renee Brierley, and Paula.

What I'll have to do is put the copyrighted stuff (exam questions, key
knowledge & skills, glossary) on our extranet so the only people who can
reach those bits will be McKinnon students.  Sigh.

Kevork Krozian wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I feel a little confused here and perhaps Mark can shed more light on it.
>
> Mark can't publish his discussion of the questions because it is
> copyright means what ?
>
> .. that the questions are owned by the VCAA and to mention them is
> breach of intellectual property even though you are teaching the subject
> and obviously need to discuss it with your students and colleagues ?
>  .. that it does not qualify for an exemption on the grounds that it is
> not educational ???? What does that mean ? How much more educational
> does it have to be if not to discuss how Yr 12 students would be
> reasonably expected to answer the questions based on what is in the
> study design ?
>
>   I am rather confused. Mark if you are reading this please help us all
> understand the answers to these questions.
> Perhaps Paula can help us find some of these answers too .
>
> Yours in sadness
>
> Kevork Krozian
> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
> kevork at edulists.com.au
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Iaquinto"
> <IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
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> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>
>
>> I agree! The Post Mortem was SO valuable. And your sense of humour
>> lifted a rather difficult subject. The answers suggested were and
>> remain an excellent teaching tool.
>>
>> Are there any others who feel this way?
>>
>> Maggie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Brett Davies
>> Sent: Mon 2/5/2007 5:11 PM
>> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>
>> How ridiculous!
>>
>> Those notes, post mortems and everything else you contribute have been
>> extremely valuable to my students and will be sorely missed. Does VCAA
>> propose to replace this with something just as useful?..... or have
>> they offerred no alternative just a no!
>>
>> If this was not educational use what was it?
>>
>>
>>>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au  >>>
>> Apologies for cross-posts.
>>
>> At the insistence of the Copyright Officer at the VCAA I have removed
>> all of their copyrighted material from the IT Lecture Notes site,
>> including all of the exam post mortems, the course summaries, and the
>> annotated glossary.
>>
>> They tell me 'this is not considered an "educational use".'
>>
>> I can't be bothered arguing with the VCAA lawyers about how many words
>> I'm allowed to quote, so there are probably not going to be any more IT
>> post mortems.
>>
>> I'm just going to go away and mumble a lot now.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
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