[Year 12 IT Apps] Edutainment

Sat Aug 11 16:57:41 EST 2007

Hi Ros,
I've got a fabulous example relating to the last paragraph of your comment...The MATHS GAMES DAYS around the state! I was a regular participant for about 5-6 years with a small team of keen students going to the PEGS hosted maths days when at a previous school. This to me highlited everything that could possibly be positive to being a teacher and makes us PROUD. Teamwork, learning, co-operative thinking, fun, socialising, organised timing, participation and so on. Not to mention being an excellent networking opportunity! I miss doing that.

Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au

Wishes and Eggs, one you make and one you break!  A bit like promises.....

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M
Sent: Fri 8/10/2007 5:57 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Edutainment

Hi all,

You all put forward interesting and valid arguments - but it is a little
like the mac vs win vs linux argument - everyone has their
beliefs/ideals and few are willing to change!!!

My daughter just said to me - "I am coming to your school for the day on
Tues to play Frisbee" mmm ....  where is the educational value in that I
wonder?

Teamwork, participation, a little bit of physical exercise, catching up
with or make friends from other schools (socialisation?) and dare I say
a chance to have some FUN?? At SCHOOL???

I don't see why a gaming tournament between schools would be of any less
value than a Frisbee tournament - and could possibly nurture some
participation from kids who would perhaps not have a chance to
participate in other school events (eg I teach some asperger's kids who
are fantastic at IT and games, but would never participate in sport,
debating, drama, music or anything else)

Food for thought!!

Cheers
Ros

Roslyn Meadows
Bentleigh Secondary College
9579 1044
0412 614 062   

-----Original Message-----
From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Timmer-Arends
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2007 4:56 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Edutainment

I don't know that Stephen is arguing some of the things you attribute to
him
but I'm sure he can defend himself. There is one point, however, that I
can't let go.

DD>...Surely our main aim is to assist the
> students to adapt to the real world that "they" live in.

If helping students adapt to the real world was all we were trying to do

then we would not have to have schools. Children readily adapt to to
most
environments without the need for school.

DD>...We have
> evolved to learn by doing, mimicking and acting out.

..and that's the problem. It is exactly the reason school needs to be a

'better place' (I know that's massively value-laden but let's ignore it
for
now!) than what parts of society present to our students. And if we
allow
too much of the dross that's part of society into our schools, we will
legitimate it. In this respect the Internet represents a great magnifier
of
all aspects of society - the good, the bad and the ugly. Surely there is

enough of the bad and the ugly out there in the 'real world' without
unnecessarily bringing it into school.

Regards
Robert T-A
Brighton SC

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