[Year 12 IPM] Computer Lab usage

[fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au]

Thanks Andrew

these had been my concerns as well but I wanted to know what other people felt.


Fiona
"Andrew Sutton" <sutton.andrew.b at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:23:22 +1000 wrote:
> Kids do bring their laptops to school here and are quite welcome to use them
> but....
> We don't allow student laptops on the computer network for a few of reasons.
> 
> 1.  They take up IP addresses and we just didn't have any to spare. (This
> was the best at convincing people as it went straight over most peoples
> heads and so they just agreed with me.)
> 2. I think it would be too easy for security flaws to be exploited in our
> network.
> 3. Kids would waste too much time on their own laptops.  
> 4. And most importantly I didn't want to be looking after (for free) a bunch
> of computers that aren't in my current job description.  I find staff
> laptops to be the most frustrating computers in the school and they are at
> least imaged machines so if something goes wrong I can fix it.  Somehow I
> think I would end up with a whole lot of problems with student laptops of
> every make and model.
> 
> The innovation and excellence person was a little bit surprised when I
> didn't want to start adding a bunch of laptops to the system.
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew Sutton
> IT / SOSE Teacher
> St Arnaud Secondary College
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au
> Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 3:34 PM
> To: ipm at edulists.com.au
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Computer Lab usage
> 
> I have read all the postings on this subject with great interest.  It is
> just so far removed from my little piece of Eden.
> 
> 20 comps in a lab, 79 students, 15 staff.  The hardest thing to come to
> terms with is that it is an open lab (literally no doors).  Many new
> teachers (and some of the more established ones) or CRT's find it difficult
> to teach with students from other classes wandering in at any time during
> the session.
> 
> I sometimes close half the room off - if I have a difficult concept I want
> to teach but for the most part it could be any mixture of classes in the
> room at one time.  Right now there is a year 8 to 10 e-biz elective running
> in one half and year 11 and 12 Ag going on in the other, plus a steady
> stream of students coming from next door, logging on for 5 - 10 minutes then
> going back into class.
> 
> Each year level is assigned one lunch time where they have free access and
> may play games, use email etc. It is monitored by the teacher on yard duty
> and if they abuse the privelage by sneaking in on another day then the
> grumpy little IT teacher (me) blocks them for a few weeks.
> 
> I did have a purpose in writing this - not just to ramble on about my easy
> as pie work (and yes I do appreciate what I have). My question is this - if
> your students have laptops that they have bought by themselves and bring to
> school independently do you allow them access to your networks?
> 
> Fiona Bain
> Balmoral High School
> 
> 
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