[Year 12 IPM] Contributors invited to attach photo to assist
inputting faces to names.
Mark Scott
msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au
Mon Dec 11 20:16:37 EST 2006
Against my better judgment...
me is attached
Mark Scott
Luther College
________________________________
From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Mon 11/12/2006 6:51 PM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Contributors invited to attach photo to assist inputting faces to names.
Hi Keith,
Nothing to apologise for. Say, you look pretty handsome in that photo !
Maybe we can set up an online database for people to upload their photos as
one other option.
Meanwhile, here is my photo in case you were wondering what I look like :)))
Best Wishes
Kevork Krozian
Mailing List Creator and Administrator
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Richardson" <keithcr at fastmail.fm>
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Contributors invited to attach photo to assist in
putting faces to names.
> My apologies Kevork - I had no idea that my request had so many
> complicated strings attached.
> So here goes, with a tiny 2Kb attached image.
> Thank you Kevork, for your detailed reply.
> Marry christmas, Keith
>
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:05:08 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
> <kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
>> Dear Keith,
>>
>> I haven't forgotten your request to see if we can have a photo with
>> each
>> email contribution.
>> When an email is sent - and these mailing lists are just an engine for
>> distributing emails - posts go to subscriber's mailboxes. They are not
>> centrally collated for all to view like web forums . In fact there is
>> very
>> little information held about a subscriber on the mail server, except for
>> an
>> email address and a few options. The server is not constructed as a forum
>> and not geared to store objects like photos.
>>
>> Why not somehow change your system to allow for storage of photos I hear
>> you
>> ask ??
>>
>> The answer is it would then have to become a web forum. Emails would not
>> necessarily keep coming into each person's mailbox but be stored
>> centrally
>> and to access a list, subscribers would have to go into the central forum
>> to
>> see what is new. Sure, reminders could be sent out but the action would
>> then
>> happen in a web environment and not a mailing list as we have it now. The
>> implications of that are individual accounts for each subscriber,
>> maintenance of these accounts and having to log in each time to this web
>> based structure to catch up with what is happening versus having all
>> messages come to you into your mailbox to do with what you like.
>>
>> So what to do ?
>> Why not invite contributors to attach a photo of no more than 100KB to
>> emails that can then be viewed to put faces to names ? If any attempt to
>> attach any large images is made there is an automatic block at 1 MB as
>> with
>> any attachment. Therefore, let us start by attaching our photo to the
>> emails
>> as a way of getting to know each other.
>>
>> To entirely ditch the mailing lists and move to a web based forum would
>> change the whole character of the mailing lists. If people did not log in
>> ,
>> they would not be up to date.
>>
>> With mailing lists it is the server's job to distribute the new posts and
>> not the subscriber's to keep logging in to see what is happening.
>> So, perhaps we can start by setting an example and posting an attached
>> photo
>> for others to identify us.
>>
>> Best Wishes
>> Kevork Krozian
>> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
>> kevork at edulists.com.au
>> www.edulists.com.au
>> Tel: 0419 356 034
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Keith Richardson" <keithcr at fastmail.fm>
>> To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> Teachers'Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
>>
>>
>> > Dear Santork Kev or is it Santa Kevork - You are indeed "a teacher who
>> > changes lives" <<that's a compliment folks>> and in the spirit of
>> > Christmas may we all collectively thank you for your listization of us
>> > as a group.
>> > Some years ago, Kevork, I made a suggestion that for a variety of
>> > reasons was not taken up, and I would like to make it again. I have my
>> > reasons for this suggestion that crystallized for me during the long
>> > lunch periods at this year's VITTA Conference.
>> > Each day I looked across the sea of faces, totally frustrated because
>> > here were many friends-on-list but I was not able to RECOGNIZE THEIR
>> > FACES because all we ever see is their names. I would have loved to
>> > drift from list-friend to list-friend, picking up comments and
>> > associations, and further enriching our shared experiences for the
>> > following year.
>> > My suggestion? <<Adjust the email list setup so that a tiny photograph
>> > of the sender shows beside their name each time they send replies etc
>> > to
>> > the list.>>
>> > So there you have it. What do others think?
>> > Merry Christmas to you all!
>> > Keith
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:47:25 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
>> > <kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
>> >> Hi IPM ( soon to be itapps) colleagues,
>> >>
>> >> Well you have done it. In Nov 2006 you posted 435 messages ( about 15
>> >> per day ) overtaking the previous record of 424 (Aug 2006) set by the
>> >> Business Managers' mailing list. Remember they are at their
>> >> desks/computers almost the whole working day and your working day is
>> >> a
>> >> different arrangement.
>> >> I hope the interaction was useful as we enter a new dawn ..... not
>> >> meaning to be too dramatic.
>> >>
>> >> While I have your attention. In the next little while the ipm mailing
>> >> list will be retired and all subscribers will be moved to the new list
>> >> itapps at edulists.com.au . You do not need to do anything. A message
>> >> will
>> >> go out when the changeover ( will it be direct, phased, pilot or
>> >> parallel
>> >> ???? -- just kidding ! ) takes place. Just keep replying to the
>> >> list. For a while both ipm at edulists.com.au and itapps at edulists.com.au
>> >> will go to the same place after which ipm at edulists.com.au will no
>> >> longer
>> >> exist ........ :( teary eyed ..... I believe it is the first name
>> >> change for IPM since 1990, though I am happy to be corrected if that
>> >> is
>> >> wrong.
>> >>
>> >> A similar announcement will go out to the is at edulists.com.au list
>> >> which
>> >> will convert to sofdev at edulists.com.au .
>> >>
>> >> The twig on the edulists tree showing ipm will gradually shrink and be
>> >> overtaken by the itapps twig and similarly the is twig will give way
>> >> to
>> >> the sofdev one.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone care to make a speech on the cusp of this momentous occasion or
>> >> are we too busy stressing out about next year ? I am not sure about
>> >> everyone else but I will have sofdev, yr11it and VET IT which will
>> >> all
>> >> be new next year ( I will also teach Cisco CCNA 1-2 and Cisco CCNA
>> >> 3-4 ).
>> >>
>> >> With thanks and Best Wishes to all of you
>> >>
>> >> Kevork Krozian
>> >> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
>> >> kevork at edulists.com.au
>> >> www.edulists.com.au
>> >> Tel: 0419 356 034
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Roland Gesthuizen
>> >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> >> Teachers'Mailing List
>> >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:30 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> G'day Keith, my virtual shoes are ringing (or is it my music
>> >> player).
>> >> Yesterday my memory laces come loose with too many unanswered SMS
>> >> pages
>> >> and I had to reboot the soles. Enjoy the attached creative writing
>> >> essay by one of my IPM students from four years ago.
>> >>
>> >> (* Clicks heels of his red shoes three times, shouting there is no
>> >> place like school, there is no place like school ... *) Apologies to
>> >> Dorothy and Toto.
>> >>
>> >> Regards Roland
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 01/12/06, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> >> G'day Scotty - suggestion - just timetable virtual classes with
>> >> virtual
>> >> teachers in virtual spaces then the kids stay at home, the
>> >> teachers
>> >> stay
>> >> in the staffroom (to be close to the coffee machines), and the
>> >> school
>> >> puts extra Moodle servers into the empty classrooms. Time becomes
>> >> immaterial because classes may be held either synchronously (if
>> >> you
>> >> were
>> >> able to put them together in the timetable, and asynchronistically
>> >> at
>> >> other times. It sounds so good, I might just give it a try
>> >> (joking...).
>> >> Cheers, Keith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:26:21 +1100, "Mark Scott"
>> >> <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au> said:
>> >> > Keith
>> >> >
>> >> > You sound so progressive and dynamic that it is depressing,
>> >> especially
>> >> > when I am knee deep in the mire trying to build a 2007 timetable
>> >> and
>> >> > haven't looked at the study design yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > (Pls excuse the whinge)
>> >> > Mark Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> >> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> >> > On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
>> >> > Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:20 AM
>> >> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> >> > Teachers'Mailing List
>> >> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you Mark and Paula - although I don't like it, I can see
>> >> where you
>> >> > are coming from.
>> >> > I personally do not like it because having to 'fake-it' rarely
>> >> leaves me
>> >> > or the kids satisfied - it seems like science experiments of old
>> >> where
>> >> > we tell the kids what 'should' have happened even though their
>> >> eyes
>> >> and
>> >> > ears tell them that it did not.
>> >> > I guess that as long as we expose them to actually functioning
>> >> tools
>> >> > albeit not in their actual SAC, they can become intuitively
>> >> confident
>> >> > that such functionality does really exist. In the past I have
>> >> > experienced similar frustrations with wanting to have
>> >> functioning
>> >> > databases behind websites.
>> >> > However, for myself I intend trying as hard as possible to
>> >> achieve
>> >> > genuine functionality of appropriate virtual-team-tools within
>> >> their SAC
>> >> > situation. Time will tell!
>> >> > Keith
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:29:14 +1100, "Christophersen, Paula P"
>> >> > <christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au > said:
>> >> > > Mark and colleagues
>> >> > >
>> >> > > This last interpretation of the outcome (and task
>> >> requirements)
>> >> and
>> >> > > advice about teaching and learning and assessment are timely
>> >> and
>> >> > > correct.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regards
>> >> > > Paula
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Paula Christophersen
>> >> > > ICT Curriculum Manager
>> >> > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
>> >> > > Authority
>> >> > > 41 St Andrews Place
>> >> > > EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>> >> > > Phone: 03 9651 4378
>> >> > > Fax: 03 9651 4324
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> >> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> >> > > On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 8:21 AM
>> >> > > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> >> > > Teachers'Mailing List
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Key things to remember abuout ITA U3O2, as I understand it...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - Knowledge sharing is part of it, but the solution must also
>> >> > facilitate
>> >> > >
>> >> > > team decision-making. (So a static website with info on it -
>> >> as
>> >> in
>> >> > the
>> >> > > Potts example - is not good.)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - Features that can't be realistically created for real can be
>> >> > > simulated. e.g. Create a web forum lookalike screen in
>> >> Photoshop;
>> >> fake
>> >> > a
>> >> > >
>> >> > > web-shopping checkout or online feedback form, or a networked
>> >> calendar
>> >> > > or booking sheet with graphics buttons and the like. Since
>> >> it's
>> >> a
>> >> > > prototype website, such parts do not need to actually work.
>> >> So
>> >> the
>> >> > kids
>> >> > >
>> >> > > don't need to actually set up a Miki or a Woogle, they just
>> >> have
>> >> to
>> >> > > indicate that they know it would help the team share info /
>> >> make
>> >> > > collaborative decisions.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - So by all means introduce kids to relevant tools, but don't
>> >> freak
>> >> > > yourself out unnecessarily about having to use them in the
>> >> outcome.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > As I understand it...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mark
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Keith Richardson wrote:
>> >> > > > I am also very confused by this Geraldine - I am almost
>> >> tempted
>> >> to
>> >> > try
>> >> > > > to do it in two parts - one with website creation, and one
>> >> using our
>> >> > > > Moodle in the school setting them the task to design then
>> >> create
>> >> > > various
>> >> > > > cooperative, virtual team tools and be able to demonstrate
>> >> that
>> >> they
>> >> > > > actually work. I have not planned more deeply than that yet.
>> >> > > > What do others think?
>> >> > > > Keith
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:23:11 +1100, "Geraldine McKenna"
>> >> > > > <gmckenna at ozemail.com.au> said:
>> >> > > >> I still feel quite unclear about what is expected in this
>> >> outcome.
>> >> > > Would
>> >> > > >> a
>> >> > > >> link to the Google Docs site mentioned recently suffice or
>> >> a
>> >> link
>> >> > to
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > >> Moodle wiki for sharing knowledge or a blog? Given that we
>> >> need to
>> >> > > use
>> >> > > >> web
>> >> > > >> authoring software - Dreamweaver in my case - I can only
>> >> imagine
>> >> > > creating
>> >> > > >> links to other tools rather than actually creating the
>> >> knowledge
>> >> > > sharing
>> >> > > >> capability within the website. Can anyone give more
>> >> specific
>> >> > examples
>> >> > > of
>> >> > > >> how
>> >> > > >> they imagine this prototype website will look?
>> >> > > >> Geraldine McKenna
>> >> > > >> Avila College
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Thanks also for feedback re VET Multimedia. Seems it may
>> >> not
>> >> be a
>> >> > > more
>> >> > > >> attractive option for girls?
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> >> > > [mailto: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
>> >> > > >> Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
>> >> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:33 AM
>> >> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and
>> >> Management
>> >> > > >> Teachers'MailingList
>> >> > > >> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Dear colleagues
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> It's great to hear this healthy discussion regarding Unit
>> >> 3,
>> >> > Outcome
>> >> > > 2.
>> >> > > >> I just want to stress that when students independently
>> >> develop
>> >> > their
>> >> > > >> prototype website, it is OK just to simulate
>> >> practices/tools
>> >> rather
>> >> > > than
>> >> > > >> creating/using them. The main intention of this part of the
>> >> outcome
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > >> for students to demonstrate their understanding of
>> >> tools/facilities
>> >> > > >> available to support knowledge sharing and collaborative
>> >> > > >> decision-making.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> So, when completing this assessment task, students would
>> >> design the
>> >> > > >> website, create the homepage and create/simulate that part
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> > > >> website that supports knowledge sharing and collaborative
>> >> decision
>> >> > > >> making. Then, comes the theory part on networking.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Regards
>> >> > > >> Paula
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Paula Christophersen
>> >> > > >> ICT Curriculum Manager
>> >> > > >> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
>> >> > > >> Authority
>> >> > > >> 41 St Andrews Place
>> >> > > >> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>> >> > > >> Phone: 03 9651 4378
>> >> > > >> Fax: 03 9651 4324
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> >> > > [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> >> > > >> On Behalf Of Cameron Bell
>> >> > > >> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 8:05 AM
>> >> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and
>> >> Management
>> >> > > >> Teachers'Mailing List
>> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Likewise. I am wondering about setting up a Jabber server
>> >> for
>> >> such
>> >> > a
>> >> > > >> purpose. Simply to reduce external traffic costs and
>> >> bandwidth
>> >> and
>> >> > > keep
>> >> > > >> it fully internal and "safer" for students. Has anyone done
>> >> this
>> >> > yet?
>> >> > > >> Would be interested in feedback.
>> >> > > >> Cameron
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Keith Richardson wrote:
>> >> > > >>> Skype has enabled some of the virtual teams I work in to
>> >> be
>> >> fast,
>> >> > > >>> efficient and effective, but it is real-time. One also
>> >> needs
>> >> > > >>> a-synchronous tools too.
>> >> > > >>> Keith
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:30:47 +1100, "Mark Kelly"
>> >> > > >>> <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> said:
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>>> Yes, but is email a complete solution? It's certainly
>> >> relevant
>> >> > and
>> >> > > >>>> important, but can it achieve everything a virtual team
>> >> needs?
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>> I ask myself (as 3:30 comes and I have to drag myself to
>> >> a
>> >> > > curriculum
>> >> > > >>>> meeting) why I'm dragging myself to a meeting. Why
>> >> couldn't
>> >> it
>> >> > be
>> >> > > >> done
>> >> > > >>>> by email? If you can work that out, you may start to see
>> >> where
>> >> > > >> email's
>> >> > > >>>> limitations begin.
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>> 2.2 cents' worth (GST inc)
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>> Off to curriculum. VELS again.
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>> Sigh........
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>> jtabone at aitkencollege.edu.au wrote:
>> >> > > >>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Dear All
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> I am reading with interest everyone's comments on U302 -
>> >> > > >>>>> collaborative problem solving within virtual teams and
>> >> am
>> >> > > wondering
>> >> > > >>>>> if I may be over-simplifying this outcome task
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Going by the detailed example in the study design p.
>> >> 69-70
>> >> we
>> >> > are
>> >> > > >>>>> given the scenario of university located on one
>> >> > > >>>>> "large campus", whereby management has recently formed
>> >> as
>> >> one of
>> >> > > >>>>> their key objectives to "strengthen current strategic
>> >> > > collaborations
>> >> > > >>>>> and forge new alliances that will create new knowledge
>> >> ..."
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> The task is then:
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> "design and create a prototype website for Sherwood
>> >> University
>> >> > > that
>> >> > > >>>>> will enable various virtual teams ... to realise their
>> >> goals and
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > >>>>> enhance decision making, knowledge sharing and
>> >> collaborative
>> >> > > problem
>> >> > > >>>>> solving"
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Couldn't simply having an email link solve this
>> >> problem -
>> >> yes
>> >> > you
>> >> > > >>>>> would use wikis, blogs, forums, webcasts, and every
>> >> other
>> >> "sexy"
>> >> > > >>>>> tool
>> >> > > >>>>> - however I can communicate virtually via email to
>> >> people
>> >> with
>> >> > the
>> >> > > >>>>> same interest (teams)
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Really, isn't that what I am doing right now - sending
>> >> an
>> >> email
>> >> > to
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > >>>>> group of people with a common interest and goal and
>> >> sharing
>> >> > > >>>>> information and receiving information in a collaborative
>> >> > > environment
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Just my thoughts
>> >> > > >>>>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Cheers
>> >> > > >>>>> Joyce Tabone
>> >> > > >>>>> Aitken College
>> >> > > >>>>>
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