[English] RE: english Digest, Vol 42, Issue 10
talkingpoints2 at optusnet.com.au
talkingpoints2 at optusnet.com.au
Tue Dec 1 12:27:56 EST 2009
Hi Gill,
I agree with your comments on 'Interpreter of the Maladies'. I am looking forward to teaching this text next year.
Regards
Katherine
> Gillian Mortimer <gmortimer at distance.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Jhumpa Lahiri's 'Interpreter of Maladies' is an excellent ESL choice.
> Short stories, the collection is not too long, themes of identity, being
> different, being torn between two cultures. Beautifully but fairly
> simply written. Vocab's not too hard. Lots of potential to talk about
> young adult relationships. The structure of the short stories is readily
> identifiable - it's easy to find details in the writing to demonstrate
> various points of view. What's more there are plenty of reviews and
> photos on the net and you can watch Lahiri on YouTube, answering
> questions, receiving awards and reading her work.
> It's a fantastic ESL text.
> Gill Mortimer
>
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> From: "Reynolds, Gail G" <reynolds.gail.g at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
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> Rebecca is not the only one teaching Poe to ESL!
>
> The 2010 list is terrible for ESL -- especially for our large cohort of
> Chinese students who do not respond well to texts which contain swearing
> or other things they find morally questionable (which automatically
> excludes texts like Cosi). Other issues include texts which depend on a
> recognition of Australian/European cultural references (such as Bypass
> .. which in any case seems to me to lack the depth which will promote
> complex responses ) Some other selections from the text list are really
> heavy going (both context and vocab) for the ESLs -- Shakespeare???
>
> On the up side there are some excellent web resources for Poe many of
> which will aid the ESL student. Once the POe stories are unpacked for
> the students, they represent the kinds of stories which bear a
> similarity to the oral traditions of many of our students. We agonised
> over our list and I read all the texts again in my quest for something
> "good". I would be really interested to know what others have chosen for
> ESL ... and why.
> Gail
>
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> Dear Rebecca,
> You're doing Poe with an ESL class????
> Lyle
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> From: "Caruso, Greta" <Caruso.G at kingswoodcollege.vic.edu.au>
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> Yes, the list is really sad for ESL. We are doing:
> Maestro
> Look Both Ways
> The Crucible
>
> Really there are very few things to select from.
> There are some really good recordings of Poe stuff on youtube and the
> iTunes. It might help to have the kids hear the text read.
> Good luck
> Greta Caruso
>
> ________________________________
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Gail G
> Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 4:34 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
>
> Rebecca is not the only one teaching Poe to ESL!
>
> The 2010 list is terrible for ESL -- especially for our large cohort of
> Chinese students who do not respond well to texts which contain swearing
> or other things they find morally questionable (which automatically
> excludes texts like Cosi). Other issues include texts which depend on a
> recognition of Australian/European cultural references (such as Bypass
> .. which in any case seems to me to lack the depth which will promote
> complex responses ) Some other selections from the text list are really
> heavy going (both context and vocab) for the ESLs -- Shakespeare???
>
> On the up side there are some excellent web resources for Poe many of
> which will aid the ESL student. Once the POe stories are unpacked for
> the students, they represent the kinds of stories which bear a
> similarity to the oral traditions of many of our students. We agonised
> over our list and I read all the texts again in my quest for something
> "good". I would be really interested to know what others have chosen for
> ESL ... and why.
> Gail
>
> ________________________________
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lyle Stebbing
> Sent: Sun 29/11/2009 8:58 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [English] Year 12 ESL English
> Dear Rebecca,
> You're doing Poe with an ESL class????
> Lyle
>
>
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> Greta, is LBW still on for ESL?
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> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Caruso, Greta
> Sent: Mon 30/11/2009 6:09 PM
> To: 'VCE English Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
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>
>
> Yes, the list is really sad for ESL. We are doing:
>
> Maestro
>
> Look Both Ways
>
> The Crucible
>
>
>
> Really there are very few things to select from.
>
> There are some really good recordings of Poe stuff on youtube and the
> iTunes. It might help to have the kids hear the text read.
>
> Good luck
>
> Greta Caruso
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Gail G
> Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 4:34 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
>
>
>
> Rebecca is not the only one teaching Poe to ESL!
>
>
>
> The 2010 list is terrible for ESL -- especially for our large cohort of
> Chinese students who do not respond well to texts which contain swearing
> or other things they find morally questionable (which automatically
> excludes texts like Cosi). Other issues include texts which depend on a
> recognition of Australian/European cultural references (such as Bypass
> .. which in any case seems to me to lack the depth which will promote
> complex responses ) Some other selections from the text list are really
> heavy going (both context and vocab) for the ESLs -- Shakespeare???
>
>
>
> On the up side there are some excellent web resources for Poe many of
> which will aid the ESL student. Once the POe stories are unpacked for
> the students, they represent the kinds of stories which bear a
> similarity to the oral traditions of many of our students. We agonised
> over our list and I read all the texts again in my quest for something
> "good". I would be really interested to know what others have chosen for
> ESL ... and why.
>
> Gail
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lyle Stebbing
> Sent: Sun 29/11/2009 8:58 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [English] Year 12 ESL English
>
> Dear Rebecca,
>
> You're doing Poe with an ESL class????
>
> Lyle
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
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