[VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline

rb rob at netspace.net.au
Wed Mar 14 22:26:27 EST 2007


Yep I put it around the wrong way. One subject many classes. I am not sure
what you mean by form group> By class I mean say Year Seven Maths A. One
issue we have found is that teachers who essentially have the same printed
report format want slightly different titles on their reports. So instead of
Junior Maths they want Junior Applied Maths. To achieve this I create a new
subject and it has worked so far. In QuickVic which we are using at the
moment, I do not think you can customize class titles directly but only
through subjects.
RB


On 14/3/07 9:56 PM, "Roland Gesthuizen" <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks everybody .. much clearer now!
> 
> On 14/03/07, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>> Class does not mean "form group" in MarkBook.
>>  
>> You cannot "create ten subjects for each class".
>>  
>> MarkBook, and I also assume QuickVic, allows you to create subjects and then
>> classes for each of the subjects. So you might have a subject called 07MA1
>> for all year 7 Maths classes in Semester 1  and then have classes called
>> 07MA1A, 07MA1B, etc
>>  
>> So be clear what you mean - well what MarkBook means!
>>  
>> Else you will be in deep doo-doo
>>  
>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
>> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>>  
>>  
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  
>>> From:  rb <mailto:rob at netspace.net.au>
>>>  
>>> To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>
>>>  
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:34  PM
>>>  
>>> Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook  Reporting Administrative Timeline
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes you must differentiate between subjects and  classes. Even if you make
>>> one subject for each class. Subjects control the  formatting and titles on
>>> printed reports. So Junior Maths may have ten classes  but one subject.
>>> Their reports will all be the same. You could however create  ten subjects
>>> for each class. The top row in quick set up where you confgure  report
>>> layout is according to my understanding controlled by  subjects.
>>> RB
>>> Thomastown
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14/3/07 3:40 PM, "Robert Hind"  <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> You do need to  differentiate between subjects and classes.
>>>> 
>>>> You can set up subjects such as 07EN1 for year 7  English semester 1 and
>>>> have many classes for that subject, eg  07EN1A, 07EN1B, 07EN1C, 07EN1D,
>>>> etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Hind  (Semi-retired)
>>>> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  
>>>>> From:  Laurie  Savage <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
>>>>>  
>>>>> To: 'Victorian Essential Learning   Standards'
>>>>> <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:37   AM
>>>>>  
>>>>> Subject: RE: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook   Reporting Administrative
>>>>> Timeline
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> The relationship between subjects to classes is   one-to-many, and
>>>>> one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need  to be able  to
>>>>> identify classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form  groups  per academic
>>>>> year!  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>>>> [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>>> <mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D>   On Behalf Of Roland  Gesthuizen
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13  March 2007 10:02 PM
>>>>> To:  Victorian Essential Learning  Standards
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting  Administrative Timeline
>>>>> Importance:  High
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Quick one Laurie .. do you  really need the  07A 07B 07C bits  when 07
>>>>> will do? From what I  understand the software sorts out classes /
>>>>> students by teachers for  marking anyway and again into students for
>>>>> reports. I  suspect that  Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes
>>>>> (or are these  the  same things).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice   that the software
>>>>> rolls on a digit for semesters etc so I will add  that in for  semester
>>>>> length courses.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Course    Classes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ================
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 07ENGT1    07AEENGT1,  07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4   etc
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards  Roland
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> On 13/03/07, Laurie  Savage  <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi  Roland:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Can I  suggest you apply even more  detail in the subject naming and set
>>>>>> up a  reporting period  discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in
>>>>>> your  courses'  i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier
>>>>>> to select   and lock down reporting periods if you do  that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Here are  a couple of  examples
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Course     Classes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ================
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1   ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4  etc
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> If you  use a system like this then  you can do a search for *T4 in the
>>>>>> Open/Close  subjects  panel.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Are we  having fun  yet?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,  Laurie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au [
>>>>>> mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>>>> <mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D>   On Behalf Of Roland
>>>>>> Gesthuizen
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 10  March 2007 10:28 PM
>>>>>> To:  Victorian Essential Learning  Standards
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook  Reporting Administrative
>>>>>> Timeline
>>>>>> Importance:   High
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Not so sure  about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out  the
>>>>>> FirstClass  database before we start our import of teachers, students and
>>>>>> classes. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our  student  enrollments,
>>>>>> and sorting out all the class codes (you must  get these right)  We
>>>>>> changed from generic names such as "English",  "Maths" and
>>>>>> "sem2ceramics10" to 07eng, 08mat and 10arcer2 ..  details are in the
>>>>>> manual /  handbook.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope to finish it  all this week so I can start work on our  interim
>>>>>> report template.  Thank goodness it is only a single page template  and
>>>>>> 500  printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year   reports.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards Roland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 10/03/07,  kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
>>>>>> <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au>  <
>>>>>> kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
>>>>>> <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au>  > wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi  there everyone in VELS  land,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school  (as many  are) for the first
>>>>>>> time this
>>>>>>> year and was wondering if anyone   had any timelines to share from
>>>>>>> previous year/s
>>>>>>> with regard  to the  practical use of this package (or Markbook) in
>>>>>>> their  school.
>>>>>>> What I am  chasing is detail with regard to  reasonable deadlines for
>>>>>>> staff,  for
>>>>>>> myself as the Quick Vic  administrator etc. A basic word doc. would  do
>>>>>>> just  fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Kim Gration
>>>>>>> ICT   Manager
>>>>>>> Myrtleford Secondary College
>>>>>>> http://www.myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
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