[VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline

Laurie Savage sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au
Thu Mar 15 09:00:07 EST 2007


Our non-elective/unblocked subjects are taught in home groups. I was using
that example out of convenience.

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From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
Behalf Of Robert Hind
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2007 9:30 PM
To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards
Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
Importance: High


Class does not mean "form group" in MarkBook. 
 
You cannot "create ten subjects for each class". 
 
MarkBook, and I also assume QuickVic, allows you to create subjects and then
classes for each of the subjects. So you might have a subject called 07MA1
for all year 7 Maths classes in Semester 1  and then have classes called
07MA1A, 07MA1B, etc
 
So be clear what you mean - well what MarkBook means!
 
Else you will be in deep doo-doo
 
Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: rb <mailto:rob at netspace.net.au>  
To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>  
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline

Yes you must differentiate between subjects and classes. Even if you make
one subject for each class. Subjects control the formatting and titles on
printed reports. So Junior Maths may have ten classes but one subject. Their
reports will all be the same. You could however create ten subjects for each
class. The top row in quick set up where you confgure report layout is
according to my understanding controlled by subjects.
RB
Thomastown


On 14/3/07 3:40 PM, "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:



You do need to differentiate between subjects and classes. 

You can set up subjects such as 07EN1 for year 7 English semester 1 and have
many classes for that subject, eg 07EN1A, 07EN1B, 07EN1C, 07EN1D, etc.

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood



----- Original Message ----- 
 
From:  Laurie  Savage  <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
<mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>  
 
To: 'Victorian Essential Learning  Standards'  <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>
<mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>  
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:37  AM
 
Subject: RE: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook  Reporting Administrative Timeline
 

 
The relationship between subjects to classes is  one-to-many, and
one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need to be able  to identify
classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form groups  per academic year!  

 
 

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From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au  [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
Behalf Of Roland  Gesthuizen
Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 PM
To:  Victorian Essential Learning Standards
Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
Importance:  High

 
Quick one Laurie .. do you really need the  07A 07B 07C bits  when 07 will
do? From what I understand the software sorts out classes /  students by
teachers for marking anyway and again into students for reports. I  suspect
that Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes (or are these  the
same things). 

Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice  that the software rolls
on a digit for semesters etc so I will add that in for  semester length
courses.

 



Course    Classes

================ 
 
07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...

10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4  etc



Regards Roland


 
On 13/03/07, Laurie  Savage <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:  



 
Hi  Roland:

 
 
Can I  suggest you apply even more detail in the subject naming and set up a
reporting period discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in your
courses' i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier to select
and lock down reporting periods if you do that.

 
 
Here are  a couple of examples

 
 
Course    Classes

================

07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...

10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc

 
 
If you  use a system like this then you can do a search for *T4 in the
Open/Close  subjects panel.

 
 
Are we  having fun yet?

Cheers,  Laurie

 
 

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From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
Behalf Of Roland  Gesthuizen
Sent: Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:28 PM
To:  Victorian Essential Learning Standards
Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
Importance:  High

 
 
Not so sure about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out  the
FirstClass database before we start our import of teachers, students and
classes. 

I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our student  enrollments, and
sorting out all the class codes (you must get these right)  We changed from
generic names such as "English", "Maths" and  "sem2ceramics10" to 07eng,
08mat and 10arcer2 .. details are in the manual /  handbook. 

Hope to finish it all this week so I can start work on our  interim report
template. Thank goodness it is only a single page template  and 500
printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year  reports.

Regards Roland 

 
On 10/03/07, kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
<mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au>
<mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au> <
kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au  <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au>
<mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au> > wrote:  


Hi  there everyone in VELS land,

We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school  (as many are) for the first time
this
year and was wondering if anyone  had any timelines to share from previous
year/s
with regard to the  practical use of this package (or Markbook) in their
school. 
What I am  chasing is detail with regard to reasonable deadlines for staff,
for
myself as the Quick Vic administrator etc. A basic word doc. would  do just
fine.

Cheers,

Kim

---
Kim Gration
ICT  Manager
Myrtleford Secondary College
http://www.myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
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