[Yr7-10it] Possible panel session for ICT conference?..Kent

Fri Jul 30 10:59:58 EST 2010

Hi Kent and all,

Count me in as well!  And consider it part of the program on day 1.  Let's
keep talking about possible panel members.

Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed
VITTA President

Director of ICT
Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141 Australia.
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[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Friday, 30 July 2010 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] Possible panel session for ICT conference?..Kent

Thats one from the West,(me)

one from the East (Brendan)

North/South reps for a panel?

Plus a Vitta member from Central?

Magic....instant panel!!

Now all we need is approval for the session and a timeslot!

Presentation tools?  Projector, Laptop(s)?, Recording devices for Video and
Audio input from audience and panel members..roving microphone for Q & A
responses...

Well Phil...can you find a spot on the conference schedule for our
'discussion panel' topic?  Then we can put the cards on the table with
members experiencing probs and talk about op

Howzat.

Kent.

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2nd that suggestion.

B

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[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge

Sent: Friday, 30 July 2010 9:25 AM

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Subject: [Yr7-10it] Possible panel session for ICT conference?..Kent

Here's another thought for a session at the Nov conference..

Title:

"Teaching and Learning in a non-metro school : Positives, Negatives and

suggestions to deal with some issues" - ideal for country members

travelling to the city to discuss their points of view.

A panel session for the above

I'd be prepared to either chair or be part of that panel.

Kent.

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[P.Callil at xavier.vic.edu.au]

Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 4:49 PM

To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List

Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] PD comment for country members ...Kent B.

Hi Kent,

I think we all agree with your sentiments........ and your enthusiasm

and passion.  That is the thing we all have in common.

I can only reiterate my comments from my last email.  Kent, I've had

numerous discussions and arguments with channel partners of the big

computer companies to do more in terms of ICT PD.  As I've had it

explained to me numerous times (to the point of almost feeling

patronized), it's all about money.  The short sighted business approach

of many companies is they have to sell boxes - both little and big - and

that employing someone to do PD is not a realistic business model.

Of course this is short sighted and ultimately self defeating.  BER is

addressing the digital divide in terms of hardware but certainly not in

the most valuable area - that of teachers' skills.  The skill base of

teachers is where the story currently ends because invariably teachers

won't (or can't) let students do stuff they are not comfortable in

doing.  This also a major challenge for educational leadership.  As you

have pointed out, regional teachers and students miss out because of the

tyranny of distance.  It's not right but unfortunately just because it's

not right doesn't mean it is any easier to solve.

>From the VITTA office side, a number of PD events this year around

Victoria have been run this year and we've been disappointed with the

lack of numbers.  I hope you and the Shepp and Bright teachers came

along to the Road Show we did on behalf of VCAA.  I guess if VITTA is

going to run things around Victoria, we just need to have as many people

at them as possible.  If there isn't , then it does simply become too

difficult. We just need to have regional events well attended because if

we do, we can build momentum and certainty and things can then start to

move.

The emerging technologies concept is one that VITTA believes has some

momentum so we (all of us - country and city) need to think of a model

that is attractive and sustainable in a country location. I'd like VITTA

to run a conference next somewhere like Yarrawonga, Echuca or Bendigo in

Semester 1 and perhaps we build it around emerging technologies -

instead of 6 weeks of one night a week, we do it intensively over two

days.

I would be grateful to hear from people on this list who would be

interested in helping with planning for a major ICT in education

conference in the first half of 2011.

For the moment, the VITTA Conference on November 29 and 30 is my major

focus and it has to be because it's getting bigger by the day.

A current snapshot:

Larry Nelson, Managing Director of Worldwide school education for

Microsoft - he is donating his services for the VITTA Conference.

Rev Tim Costello - Tuesday keynote

ICT Leadership - for  ICT Leaders and Prins in in DEECD, CEO and

independent schools groups separately - coming together later for open

panel hypothetical discussion

400 mobile devices from Apple for delegate use.

Separate one day conference for TSSP techs (pending) but also one for

CEO and independent school techs.

Trade Display bigger than last few years.

Conference Dinner which will be a ripper.

And the most important of all:  practising teachers giving presentations

with 6 labs available for workshops.

Maybe the 2010 VITTA Conference would be perfect time to run a session

for anyone interested in talking about a regional conference event in

2011.

Kent, this hasn't solved the problem but it won't be for lack of trying.

Phil Callil

Faculty Head ICT

Xavier College

Phone 9855-4163

www.xavier.vic.edu.au

Vice President VITTA and 2010 Conference Director

VITTA Annual Conference

Australia's biggest annual K-12 ICT in Education conference

Caulfield Racecourse November 29-30

www.vitta.org.au

>>> Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> 7/29/2010 9:33 AM >>>

Thanks for the reply Phil, but if I may...

Firstly, yes, VITTA puts on and supports conferences and yes it does

'punch' for state and national issues.

However, I refer to another member's comment currently on this

discussion thread that many PD opportunities tend to be city based and

post 4.30 timeslots - great for city members, but not so for us non-city

members(yes, I am now paid up!).

Example..the recently offered 'emerging technologies course' on these

lists. I for one looked at the content and thought it would be excellent

if I could attend all or even some of the units but alas...the timeslots

again destroy that option.

Solution? I have a local tafe campus of the Ballarat uni handy and so

perhaps that may be my only option available to keep 'up to date'

coursewise but that may be an expensive option methinks.

Jo Maclaey and myself are going to attempt to trial an elluminate

session next week and I mentioned it to my techie here so we'll see if

we can make it happen to possibly open up some options on that front.

Now..to an obvious point...

I am presently Horsham based, and two respondents currently about this

issue are in both Shepp and Bright..also non-Melbourne based. How to

cater for 'us' on a basis EQUALLY as regularly as the city members for

PD sessions on 'whatever' the topic. Also, what about the Mildura and

Ouyen, or Bairnsdale members..how to cater for THEM too??

Seems since my time - now in my 4th year - up here, I have observed a

strong lack of offerings in the PD front for non-city members. As you

also may well know, I DO comment about this when I notice it and feel

disappointed with offerings and have raised this issue on these lists

previously on these lists.

Possible solution??

For me.. offer PD in say Ballarat or Ararat that I can attend and start

at 5.30pm or 6.00pm gives me a chance to at least get there(2hrs to

Ballarat for me, 1 and a bit to Ararat). North? Some venue about 1-2hrs

north of Melbourne and East?...Maybe Warragul sessions. Surely

presenters would be prepared to do a 1-2 hr trip if they were aware that

some of the participants at their sessions were travelling an equal

distance just to get there from their country or rural based schools to

keep up to date with their skill base.

We, in the country schools, want to provide currency and fun too in our

content for our students but feel often 'left out in the cold' when some

'cool' PD sessions are on offer....in the city!

Perhaps some serious money - or training offerings, or PD sessions etc

can be sourced from sponsors and businesses who wish to support this

plight can assist.

Eg...

Come on Adobe, and Microsoft, and Apple, or IBM et al,  contact us and

help us (or ME!!) and help us out here with some tailored sessions at an

affordable rate.

Some software scripting, and animation or multi-media content would be

most welcomed by us country members but we NEED YOUR SUPPORT!  You want

sales?  Well help us out then! We use your products in our classes so

jump on board and help this problem, BUT STOP DELAYING..we need help

NOW..not 12months or longer...frankly, we're tired of waiting and talk

and want ACTIONS.

Personally, I'm tired of lip service to our plight.(you know the

one..'its on the agenda for discussion...blah, blah," ).

My students DAILY look to me for inspiration and enthusiasm..and when it

wains, they spot it a mile off. I love my job, but crikey its tough when

I must constantly 'self teach' via online tutes and similar to keep

current all the time with the demands of an I.T (and multi-curriculum)

classroom where the hardware and software become out of date in no time

flat!

Like an earlier member said, I am self taught with most of my software

skill due to distance and cost factors. It would be nice to be

professionally taught for a change..its not easy being an I.T. teacher

and knowing the industry wants/needs our students but the education

system seems to be squeezing us out!

reckon that about covers it..

ok..I'm done..my fingers are tiring now...

Kent Beveridge

PASSIONATE I.T. teacher of many years, PASSIONATE Maths teacher too!

Multi talented, multi skilled,

MULTI STRESSED(nature of the job!) (often subtle in speech and comment)

yada yada yada..

St. Brigids Cath.Sec. College, HORSHAM, Vic  (3hrs from Melbourne on the

Western Hwy!)

cheers kiddies...

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From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au

[yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Phil Callil

[P.Callil at xavier.vic.edu.au]

Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:46 PM

To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List

Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] More great value PD - Introduction to Scripting

inGame  Maker

Guys, VITTA has been active in setting up PLNs throughout Victoria.

This is not a solution but certainly part of the solution.  VITTA

provides seeding money to help you organize PD events in your region.

We know it's not enough but the realities is that VITTA does everything

it can as a not for profit organization to provide support and

encouragement for IT in education in regional areas.

Adrian as President, myself as Vice President, the rest of the Executive

and the Committee all put into countless hours to keep the association

going. The staff in the VITTA Office are A1.  I can vouch for that

personally.  VITTA punches above its weight in national and state issues

in matters relating to ICT in education.  We are all passionate in

trying to support regional members. Adrian travelled to Horsham to

outline the changes to the study design.  VITTA gave as much support as

we could for the Slide2Learn conference in Shep precisely because of its

innovation and location and learning opportunities for regional members.

Next year, we plan to run a regional conference and we hope that you

will support it in a pro active and constructive way.  More about that

later.  As you know, there are considerable expenses in running any PD

in rural settings but we do as much as is feasible and we continue to be

mindful of providing professional learning opportunities for our

regional colleagues.

The bottom line is we need to have a critical mass to be able to run

more regional events.  VITTA would simply cease to exist in any form if

we run events for groups that are small.

If you have constructive and creative ways in which VITTA can help you

that are logistically  possible and meet your professional learning

needs, we are listening and always ready to hear.

Best wishes

Phil

Phil Callil

Faculty Head ICT

Xavier College

9855-4163

www.xavier.vic.edu.au

Vice President VITTA

www.vitta.org.au/

>>> "Hutchison, Geoffrey G" <hutchison.geoffrey.g at edumail.vic.gov.au>

7/28/2010 12:14 PM >>>

Join the conversation. Been going on these boards for 3+ years. Going

nowhere.

Geoff Hutchison

McGuire College (Shepp)

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[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Hall, Rod M

Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:00 PM

To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List

Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] More great value PD - Introduction to Scripting

inGame Maker

Do know that those teachers in "rural" settings are striving also to

deliver an inclusive and engaging curriculum. Often learning many

software applications by themselves as the faculty may not be large

enough to share learning and spending considerable time to do so.

Enthusiasm is a driving force and the opportunity to share PD and

learning helps to refire the enthusiasm when it can wane because the

skill set  may not be as up to date as desired. PD opportunities are

highly welcomed - YET once again all PD for terrific (say)  Gamemaker

applications remains city based and (currently) from 4.30pm to meet the

needs of the city folk. Here us loud and clearly in the country - PLEASE

consider opportunities for Regional PD - we will drive an hour to get to

a location but a 7 hour return trip is just not an option for 2 hours of

sharing.

Get on line country teachers and put your thinking  to VITTA - maybe the

power of the numbers may well stir those talented people to offer their

travel time with VITTA support to come nearer to you .

One can only hope so.

Yours in frustration

Rod Hall

Bright P-12 College

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[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge

Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 8:53 AM

To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List

Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] More great value PD - Introduction to Scripting

in Game Maker

Anything on for us up here in the country that we dont need to travel

etc...etc...???

Scripting PD's etc.

Or do we miss out yet again....

Kent.

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[yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of VITTA Professional

Development [pd at vitta.org.au]

Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 4:08 PM

To: Yr7-10it

Subject: [Yr7-10it] More great value PD - Introduction to Scripting in

Game     Maker

Hi folks and sorry for the cross-posts,

Fabulous value Professional Learning: You pay less for this quality

event due to a subsidy provided by Multimedia Victoria.

"Excuse me... How do we use these scripting functions?"

Introduction to Scripting in Game Maker

This PD session will introduce participants to scripting in Game Maker

by creating drag-and-drop games. VITTA and experienced teacher Nat

Bradshaw present a practical session of learning where you will explore

Game Maker in order to inspire and engage. Game Maker allows you to

quickly create exciting computer games. Gain confidence in programming

skills and develop an exciting game to showcase to your students.

Game Maker's simple drag and drop interface is friendly enough to use

with as young as Year 3, but through its powerful scripting language, it

is suitable for students at all levels. With Game Maker you can easily

create games such as top view, platform games, first person shooters, 3D

and networked multiplayer games. It is a fully fledged programming

language capable of non game applications such as physics simulations

and databases.

This Professional Learning session will be on:

Date: Wednesday 18th August 2010

Time: 4.30 pm to 6.30 pm

Venue: Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141

Melways Map Reference: 2L J3

For more info and registration go to:

http://www.vitta.org.au/events/event/introduction-to-scripting-in-game-m

aker

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