[Yr7-10it] Twittering

Fri Jun 26 19:07:46 EST 2009

The more remote kids are the last to hear about the things that could help
them more than it could help the city kids. Things are a bit back to front
in some ways Claire.
Peter

2009/6/26 Claire Adams <claire.e.adams at gmail.com>

> My students don't know what twitter, irc, or forums are.
> They don't even think to look up help (F1 is unheard of!).
> Most country kids (esp. here on the EP) have heard of MSN, but that
> doesn't mean they even use that regularly.
> In my experience some interactive device (maybe wiki, or IRC channel)
> might get used by city kids, or
> kids who live in more densely populated areas, but it would be a waste
> of resources over here.
>
> Claire Adams
> Cummins Area School
> Eyre Peninsula
> South Australia
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Roland Gesthuizen<rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > (* hand over mouth *) OK you lot .. toss in your 2 cents worth.
> >
> > Regards Roland
> >
> > 2009/6/23 Dr Paul Chandler <paul.chandler at une.edu.au>
> >>
> >> Roland and others,
> >>
> >> I hope you haven't put the moz on other responses to my question, Roland
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> I'm presently engaged in observing classes using Kahootz, for which
> there
> >> is no existing (student-accessible) forum or similar system.
> >>
> >> What we are observing is that students are thriving on the immediacy of
> >> getting help.  For instance "how do I make it seem that this character
> is
> >> morphing to another ... oh, I can show you how to do that"   There is
> help
> >> being spread across schools ("how can I show rain"), but it is
> >> teacher-mediated and word of mouth (but very efficient when it works).
> >>
> >> I think help forms are terrific.  The rapidity in which I've received
> >> assistance for products like vlc and PGV is astounding, but these are
> very
> >> large and very active communities, where the principal developers devote
> >> huge numbers of hours to answer questions.  This is not likely to be the
> >> case with Kahootz.
> >>
> >> You're not going to get extended responses in a medium like twitter.
>  But
> >> interactions such as "Can u mk rain?"  "yeah - check http://somerain"
> are
> >> possible, and probably very helpful.
> >>
> >> So, notwithstanding Roland's informed comments about forums and Yahoo
> >> answers, I think my question still remains: I'm wondering if anyone as
> >> thought of - or implemented - the use of Twitter (or some twitter-like
> >> technology) as a "help system" for students?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> > Twitter is a bit different from a forum to ask for help .. it is an
> odd
> >> > mix
> >> > of micro-blogging and chat. I have a small, friendly gathering of
> >> > educators
> >> > on my Twitter rgesethuizen identity but not as many as I can tap into
> >> > via
> >> > these forums. No students although I expect they have moved beyond
> >> > micro-blogging to communicating in fewer syllables with words like
> hmm,
> >> > shh,
> >> > ahh, grr, hah, ugg, huh, yeh etc.
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps if students were looking to share questions they would use
> Yahoo
> >> > Answers. Last year I was surprised to spot my VCE students skim this
> for
> >> > answers until I found out that one was handing out IT advice and
> trying
> >> > to
> >> > gain more 'points' than somebody else! She was doing a swell job of
> >> > answering basic questions by doing some snap research and typing up
> >> > short
> >> > answers. Apparently they got the most points if the questioner voted
> her
> >> > answer as the best. Worth studying although I should warn that I now
> >> > recognise that like other similar engines, some of the questions
> >> > discussed
> >> > cover adult concepts.
> >> >
> >> > Regards Roland
> >> >
> >> > 2009/6/22 Dr Paul Chandler <paul.chandler at une.edu.au>
> >> >
> >> >> Hi folks,
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm wondering if anyone as thought of - or implemented - the use of
> >> >> Twitter (or some twitter-like technology) as a "help system" for
> >> >> students?
> >> >>
> >> >> We all know that kids talk with one another and 'get help' on various
> >> >> aspects of computing when they are working in the classroom ... is
> this
> >> >> the logical extension?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thoughts?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Dr Paul Chandler
> >> >> Research Fellow
> >> >> 'Multimedia grammatical design and authoring pedagogy' (Kahootz)
> >> >> project,
> >> >> School of Education, University of New England
> >> >>
> >> >> located at Australian Children's Television Foundation
> >> >> 145 Smith Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, 3065
> >> >> e-mail: paul.chandler at une.edu.au
> >> >> Ph: 0400 198 187
> >> >> Fax: (03) 9419 0660
> >> >> Skype: paul.d.chandler
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
> >> > http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au
> >> >
> >> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
> >> > change
> >> > the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr Paul Chandler
> >> Research Fellow
> >> 'Multimedia grammatical design and authoring pedagogy' (Kahootz)
> project,
> >> School of Education, University of New England
> >>
> >> located at Australian Children's Television Foundation
> >> 145 Smith Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, 3065
> >> e-mail: paul.chandler at une.edu.au
> >> Ph: 0400 198 187
> >> Fax: (03) 9419 0660
> >> Skype: paul.d.chandler
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
> > http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
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