[Yr7-10it] Open Slather Internet - the EMP filter
Costello, Rob R
Costello.Rob.R at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri May 11 12:04:24 EST 2007
You might be interested in podcast of Jimmy Wales, founder of wikipedia,
and his philosophy of open access and clean up tools
I like the restaurant analogy
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2007/1912621.htm
personally, I think we should adopt this sort of approach - the
alternate "lowest common denominator" approach leads to more frustration
than security
I do have a foolproof filtering solution that may help - its called EMP.
Detonate an EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) over the school, once all
students are in place
This will leave students and staff unharmed, but will remove access to
all undesirables such as MySpace (how dare the kids the have their own
space), and will have the positive side effect of removing all
distracting phones, and mp3 players from use
What more could you ask?
Good old pen and paper will continue to work, but we can possibly manage
those risks
Only downside is that surveillance cameras may also be wiped
rob
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:26:00 +1000
From: "Carnie, Sheryl M" <carnie.sheryl.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [Yr7-10it] RE: Open Slather Internet
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On a slightly different tack, I'm interested in how other schools are
managi=3D
ng the student access to Internet sites. Educache provides the comfort
of k=3D
nowing there is very little inappropriate material accessible, but then
agai=3D
n lots of interesting/relevant/useful & appropriate sites are not
readilby a=3D
ccessible. Is there a workable compromise between Educache at one
extreme a=3D
nd unrestricted access at the other? I'm finding that delivery of the
ICT f=3D
or Communicating dimension at levels 5 & 6 is difficult (all but
impossible)=3D
with just Educache access.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Sheryl
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Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:35:10 +1000
From: Cameron Bell <bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
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We took advantage of the Brightsparks unlimited access offer and get
unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.
We no longer have to worry about quotas, but we are looking at shaping
tools (GetBusi, Packateer) for traffic management.
Charging students and having them turn up to class without net access
was severely limiting the enthusiasm of teachers and students for using
the internet. It was a priority for us to remove this and had budgeted
for unlimited access on the old plan, but the Brightsparks offer has
saved us heaps, both in access fees and administration of credit.
It is not perfect, their help desk is non-existent and admin tools are
very very basic, but we find these minor issues when compared to being
able walk into a class and know that students will have access if
required.
When we told staff of the new unlimited access, well, you should have
heard the cheer. :)
Cheers
Cameron
James GIBNEY wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> sorry if you get this a couple of times.
>
> At the moment we have an open slather internet policy and some kids
> are downloading excessive amounts. We are currently considering
> limiting monthly downloads to 40 MB. Is this too much? What are the
> limits at your school? Do you charge students who exceed their limits?
>
> Thanks again for help
>
> Regards
>
> Jim
>
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:39:54 +1000
From: "Hutchison, Geoffrey G"
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Brightsparks offer?
Geoff Hutchison,
IT Co-ordinator/Manager,
McGuire College,
Shepparton, Vic
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We took advantage of the Brightsparks unlimited access offer and get
unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.
We no longer have to worry about quotas, but we are looking at shaping
tools (GetBusi, Packateer) for traffic management.
Charging students and having them turn up to class without net access
was severely limiting the enthusiasm of teachers and students for using
the internet. It was a priority for us to remove this and had budgeted
for unlimited access on the old plan, but the Brightsparks offer has
saved us heaps, both in access fees and administration of credit.
It is not perfect, their help desk is non-existent and admin tools are
very very basic, but we find these minor issues when compared to being
able walk into a class and know that students will have access if
required.
When we told staff of the new unlimited access, well, you should have
heard the cheer. :)
Cheers
Cameron
James GIBNEY wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> sorry if you get this a couple of times.
>
> At the moment we have an open slather internet policy and some kids
> are downloading excessive amounts. We are currently considering
> limiting monthly downloads to 40 MB. Is this too much? What are the
> limits at your school? Do you charge students who exceed their limits?
>
> Thanks again for help
>
> Regards
>
> Jim
>
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Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:50:57 +1000
From: Cameron Bell <bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
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Late last year they offered the unlimited downloads for $500 /mth. I
was told about it from someone who was watching the ISP's and had it
confirmed that another school nearby (2000 students) was using it and
were happy with it, so we moved over.
I am not sure if it still valid, check their website?
Hutchison, Geoffrey G wrote:
> Brightsparks offer?
>
> Geoff Hutchison,
> IT Co-ordinator/Manager,
> McGuire College,
> Shepparton, Vic
>
>
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> *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Cameron Bell
> *Sent:* Wed 5/9/2007 11:35 AM
> *To:* Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
>
> We took advantage of the Brightsparks unlimited access offer and get
> unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.
> We no longer have to worry about quotas, but we are looking at shaping
> tools (GetBusi, Packateer) for traffic management.
> Charging students and having them turn up to class without net access
> was severely limiting the enthusiasm of teachers and students for
using
> the internet. It was a priority for us to remove this and had budgeted
> for unlimited access on the old plan, but the Brightsparks offer has
> saved us heaps, both in access fees and administration of credit.
> It is not perfect, their help desk is non-existent and admin tools are
> very very basic, but we find these minor issues when compared to being
> able walk into a class and know that students will have access if
> required.
> When we told staff of the new unlimited access, well, you should have
> heard the cheer. :)
>
> Cheers
> Cameron
>
>
> James GIBNEY wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > sorry if you get this a couple of times.
> >
> > At the moment we have an open slather internet policy and some kids
> > are downloading excessive amounts. We are currently considering
> > limiting monthly downloads to 40 MB. Is this too much? What are the
> > limits at your school? Do you charge students who exceed their
limits?
> >
> > Thanks again for help
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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