[Yr7-10it] Re: Open Slather Internet

Wed May 9 13:40:10 EST 2007

IMHO - At the end of the day, the only workable solution is teacher 
vigilance. Open it up, but reinforce that teachers must monitor what is 
happening in class. We have done away with computer "pods" that were out 
of sight and put the general use computers in other classrooms (that can 
fit them in).
 Teachers know that:
1) If they are in a classroom with general use computers they are to 
just keep tabs on what visiting students are doing,
2) If they send students to use the computers/net out of class, they 
know that the students will still be sort of supervised.
There will never be a software solution that can replace adult 
supervision. We emphasise that to our parents as well.
Cheers
Cameron

Carnie, Sheryl M wrote:
> On a slightly different tack, I'm interested in how other schools are 
> managing the student access to Internet sites.  Educache provides the 
> comfort of knowing there is very little inappropriate material 
> accessible, but then again lots of interesting/relevant/useful & 
> appropriate sites are not readilby accessible.  Is there a workable 
> compromise between Educache at one extreme and unrestricted access at 
> the other?  I'm finding that delivery of the ICT for Communicating 
> dimension at levels 5 & 6 is difficult (all but impossible) with just 
> Educache access.
>  
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> Sheryl
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> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:35:10 +1000
> From: Cameron Bell <bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
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> We took advantage of the Brightsparks unlimited access offer and get
> unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.
> We no longer have to worry about quotas, but we are looking at shaping
> tools (GetBusi, Packateer) for traffic management.
> Charging students and having them turn up to class without net access
> was severely limiting the enthusiasm of teachers and students for using
> the internet. It was a priority for us to remove this and had budgeted
> for unlimited access on the old plan, but the Brightsparks offer has
> saved us heaps, both in access fees and administration of credit.
> It is not perfect, their help desk is non-existent and admin tools are
> very very basic, but we find these minor issues when compared to being
> able walk into a class  and know that students will have access if
> required.
> When we told staff of the new unlimited access, well, you should have
> heard the cheer.  :)
>
> Cheers
> Cameron
>
>
> James GIBNEY wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > sorry if you get this a couple of times.
> > 
> > At the moment we have an open slather internet policy and some kids
> > are downloading excessive amounts. We are currently considering
> > limiting monthly downloads to 40 MB. Is this too much? What are the
> > limits at your school? Do you charge students who exceed their limits?
> > 
> > Thanks again for help
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Jim
> >
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> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:39:54 +1000
> From: "Hutchison, Geoffrey G"
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> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
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> Brightsparks offer?
>
> Geoff Hutchison,
> IT Co-ordinator/Manager,
> McGuire College,
> Shepparton, Vic
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> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Cameron Bell
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>
> We took advantage of the Brightsparks unlimited access offer and get
> unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.
> We no longer have to worry about quotas, but we are looking at shaping
> tools (GetBusi, Packateer) for traffic management.
> Charging students and having them turn up to class without net access
> was severely limiting the enthusiasm of teachers and students for using
> the internet. It was a priority for us to remove this and had budgeted
> for unlimited access on the old plan, but the Brightsparks offer has
> saved us heaps, both in access fees and administration of credit.
> It is not perfect, their help desk is non-existent and admin tools are
> very very basic, but we find these minor issues when compared to being
> able walk into a class  and know that students will have access if
> required.
> When we told staff of the new unlimited access, well, you should have
> heard the cheer.  :)
>
> Cheers
> Cameron
>
>
> James GIBNEY wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > sorry if you get this a couple of times.
> >
> > At the moment we have an open slather internet policy and some kids
> > are downloading excessive amounts. We are currently considering
> > limiting monthly downloads to 40 MB. Is this too much? What are the
> > limits at your school? Do you charge students who exceed their limits?
> >
> > Thanks again for help
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:50:57 +1000
> From: Cameron Bell <bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
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> Late last year they offered the unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.  I
> was told about it from someone who was watching the ISP's and had it
> confirmed that another school nearby (2000 students) was using it and
> were happy with it, so we moved over.
> I am not sure if it still valid, check their website?
>
>
> Hutchison, Geoffrey G wrote:
> > Brightsparks offer?
> > 
> > Geoff Hutchison,
> > IT Co-ordinator/Manager,
> > McGuire College,
> > Shepparton, Vic
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Cameron Bell
> > *Sent:* Wed 5/9/2007 11:35 AM
> > *To:* Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* [Yr7-10it] Re: Open slather internet
> >
> > We took advantage of the Brightsparks unlimited access offer and get
> > unlimited downloads for $500 /mth.
> > We no longer have to worry about quotas, but we are looking at shaping
> > tools (GetBusi, Packateer) for traffic management.
> > Charging students and having them turn up to class without net access
> > was severely limiting the enthusiasm of teachers and students for using
> > the internet. It was a priority for us to remove this and had budgeted
> > for unlimited access on the old plan, but the Brightsparks offer has
> > saved us heaps, both in access fees and administration of credit.
> > It is not perfect, their help desk is non-existent and admin tools are
> > very very basic, but we find these minor issues when compared to being
> > able walk into a class  and know that students will have access if
> > required.
> > When we told staff of the new unlimited access, well, you should have
> > heard the cheer.  :)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Cameron
> >
> >
> > James GIBNEY wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > sorry if you get this a couple of times.
> > >
> > > At the moment we have an open slather internet policy and some kids
> > > are downloading excessive amounts. We are currently considering
> > > limiting monthly downloads to 40 MB. Is this too much? What are the
> > > limits at your school? Do you charge students who exceed their limits?
> > >
> > > Thanks again for help
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> >
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