[Yr7-10it] block it all

[Geoff Hutchison]

Touche

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On 01-Mar-07 at 7:20 PM Cameron Bell wrote:

>I don't have the time to block every site that may come up as "not 
>wanted" by staff. I tell the staff that it is their job as a classroom 
>teacher to monitor what goes on in *their* classroom. If I see a kid at 
>a site that is clearly not relevant, I simply tell them to get on with 
>the work as required and follow it up by keeping an eye on them and go 
>through the usual steps I would with any kid who wasn't doing the 
>current activity.
>The alternative is to ignore the rest of the class while I kick the kid 
>of the computer while I check the history, find the site, get the URL, 
>determine the category, logon to the proxy, submit the filter.....
>It's so much easier to say "Get on with the work or I'll........."
>
>Cameron
>
>Geoff Hutchison wrote:
>> You are being too subtle Rob.
>>
>> Reminds me of my days working at a regional TAFE - VIC.GOV.AU was
>suddenly blocked, classified as porn (sic). Didn't even bother ringing our
>techs, took them over a month to unblock it.
>>
>> This blocking is just another case of the tail wagging the dog. Schools
>should decide what to block, and by schools, I mean the teaching staff.
>School and dept tech support should deliver what schools want, not what
>they decide schools can have.
>>
>>  Which reminds me, Netspace is our ISP, and via an email a week ago,
>they informed us all that, due to many requests from schools, they were
>going to block many 'game' sites - they would decide what amounted to a
>'game' site. 
>>
>> SIGH.
>>
>> If schools just got off their own backsides, and instigated their own
>filters AS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
>>
>> I could go on ................
>>
>> cheers
>> Geoff
>>
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>> On 01-Mar-07 at 3:32 PM Costello, Rob R wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Reading about more filtering - 
>>>
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/youtube-ban-for-victorian-schools
>>> /2007/03/01/1172338754827.html
>>>
>>> Personally, I think every student should be satisfied with 24/7 access
>>> to the official VELS site, and maybe the curriculum planning guidelines
>>>
>>> What more could they ask for? 
>>>
>>> Google, blogs, email, flickr, and all such web 2 apps should be banned
>>> by decree
>>>
>>> They might be used to communicate - and the risk of communicating is too
>>> high  
>>>
>>> I look forward to a world in which every interesting and interactive web
>>> site is finally blocked, and we all have handheld devices, on which we
>>> can access an approved list of 3 sites 
>>>
>>> Paper and pen might also need banning, as there are reliable reports of
>>> these media being used for obscene drawing and note passing in class 
>>>
>>> Rob 
>>>
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