[Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance

Fri Feb 2 21:39:19 EST 2007

John - shame! What is wrong with people "using" the ideas of others? I
do it all of the time, and learn heaps from it.
The big risk of negative comments like yours is it can "scare off" timid
teachers who are not wanting to offend, but want to professionally
provide the best possible for their students.
My self confidence over the years has grown from receiving the
unconditional support of others, and I then feel freed (by this) to
offer my help whenever it is sought.
Everyone - seek and you shall find. Remain silent and you will remain
lost. Do not be intimidated by negative comments.
Keith.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:59:26 +1100, "Therese Keane"
<Therese.Keane at genazzano.vic.edu.au> said:
> I have to disagree with your comments John.
> 
> Given only this week, it was reported in the media that large numbers of
> new teachers do not "hang around" in the teaching profession past 5
> years. This in itself should ring alarm bells. 
> 
> Firstly, I have no problems in helping first year teachers with using my
> materials. Over the years, I (like many other people, including Maggie!)
> ran sessions on behalf of VITTA where I freely gave away my materials. I
> did not mind that teachers used them in their own classes. All teachers
> no matter how many years of experience need help, support and
> assistance. Like many other people in the IT community, I am not alone
> in the sharing of resources.
> 
> After all, why have a list at all if people do not want to share ideas
> or resources? This is recognised by VITTA who have just produced a CD
> full of resources. I strongly believe that anyone has the right to ask
> for assistance and should not be made to feel intimidated by comments
> like yours. 
> 
> With respect to Information Technology Applications it is often the case
> that there is only 1 teacher in the school and so they need support from
> the broader IT community, especially if they are a first timer. Please
> treat first timers with the same amount of support that you would expect
> if you were in their position.
> 
> Therese
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of
> iaquinto at ozemail.com.au
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> To: yr7-10it at edulists.com.au
> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance
> 
> Thanks for your comments, John. I'm afraid I must let you know that you
> have made these comments on the wrong list. Yeps. Please subscribe to
> the curmudgeon list and you will find sentiments similar to yours.
> 
> Maggie
> 
> Quoting John Torey <jtorey at parade.vic.edu.au>:
> 
> > Dear IPMers,
> >
> > I know this is late but I have over 100 emails still to sort through 
> > from over the break, but seriously, this process of just asking for 
> > work to look at is just a polite attempt to gain work in order to 
> > minimise the amount of work to do.
> >
> > If people are qualified to teach IT then they should be able to write 
> > it themselves and then use the appropriate IT list ( not this one for 
> > IPM but use the IPM list) to show it and let the experienced Iters 
> > look at at it and respond if it looks good.
> >
> > First timers should stop trying to get the work for nothing.
> >
> > Lets get real and encourage first timers to do the work and not copy 
> > work.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John Torey
> > Mathematics Convenor (taught IT/IPM between 1992 - 2003) Parade 
> > College - Bundoora VIC
> > (03) 9468 3300
> > jtorey at parade.vic.edu.au
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> > [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of 
> > narayanv at yeahs.vic.edu.au
> > Sent: Friday, 15 December 2006 8:35 AM
> > To: yr7-10it at edulists.com.au
> > Subject: [Yr7-10it] IPM2007 assistance
> >
> > Hi Keith
> > I will be teaching IPM 3 & 4 in 2007 for the first time. If you have 
> > done any planning based on the text below, I would be pleased to have 
> > a look at it to assist me teaching IPM next year.
> > It would be of great help.
> > I would be also be too happy to receive work set for outcomes 1 and 2.
> > Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you.
> > Vinod Narayan
> > Yea High School.
> >
> > "Information Technology Applications VCE Units 3 & 4 - EDITION: 2 -
> >> ISBN: 0170130258
> >> AUTHORS: Colin Potts, Therese Keane, Janet Lancaster, James Lawson, 
> >> Margaret Lawson"
> >
> >
> > "Keith Richardson" <keithcr at fastmail.fm> on Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:42:38
> > +1100 wrote:
> >> Does anyone have proofs of this book for next year?
> >>
> >> "Information Technology Applications VCE Units 3 & 4 - EDITION: 2 -
> >> ISBN: 0170130258
> >> AUTHORS: Colin Potts, Therese Keane, Janet Lancaster, James Lawson, 
> >> Margaret Lawson"
> >>
> >> REASON - I want to do my detailed planning now, and will be happy to 
> >> share it with others through this list.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Keith
> >> Keith Richardson
> >> IPM List Moderator
> >> Head of ICT, Leibler Yavneh College
> >> Elsternwick
> >> Ph: 03.9528.4911
> >> k.richardson at yavneh.vic.edu.au
> >>
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