[Yr7-10it] RE: Yr7-10it Digest, Vol 34, Issue 47
Costello, Rob R
Costello.Rob.R at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri Dec 28 19:13:57 EST 2007
I live in Bendigo and I'm not sure what I think about this
Why?
I don't teach at Bendigo Senior Secondary, but it has had a strong
tradition of ICT PD (navconn, ICT festivals etc) but even there the last
ICT festival - held for the whole town and the region - was a bit of a
fizzer - they had to cancel most of the sessions
I couldn't help thinking the teacher interest in this sort of approach
has gone through a bit of a dip - maybe akin to the dip in student
enrolments
Not sure why - but that's my first issue - we might be able to broadcast
(how well?) but having great content that people really want is another
issue
(even if its working ok, the remote thing will lessen the quality, so it
will needs to be really good content to work remotely)
But personally, while I'd attend this sort of thing in person, I don't
know that I'd sign up for it, if it was remote -
My reservations :
(1) skill development is pretty easy to get anywhere on the internet I
reckon (IT content is not that compelling - a little time reading can go
as far)
(2) the nature of these training sessions is likely to not translate
overally well to remote connection (can we see each other? and/or each
other's screens?
(I like the technology - I did a video conference between parts of my
family on Christmas day - but I'm not sure it makes for a good session
like this).
Have been trained via phone and remote desktop and that worked well -
and I sometimes solve problems for people like that - but is a one to
one thing; not sure how that would work for a group
Also used some commercial stuff - WebEx - even at best its doesn't seem
like a great training tool for software training
Potential
Rob
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> From: "Kent Beveridge" <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: [Yr7-10it] Project Wiki..
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> Thanks for setting up the Wiki AJ.
> Its getting bigger by the looks of it. My vision of visual links...how
to
> do this via a wiki? Or isnt this possible.
> Kent.
>
> Oh, just bought myself a USB modem card, its a pain to get set up when
all
> you have is a mobile phone! grrrr Telstra monopoly!
>
> Kent Beveridge,
> I.T. co-ordinator
> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> Horsham
> email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Adrian Janson
> Sent: Fri 12/28/2007 12:51 AM
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> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] Re: Rural PD project...so it GROWS!
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Hope you all had a Merry Christmas!!
>
> I have set up a VITTA wikispace at the address below so that we can
start
> to
> plan a few things...
>
> http://www.vitta.org.au/wiki/VITTA_Regional_Networks_Project
>
> At the moment, I have listed those names that have expressed an
interest
> in
> being involved. I have also listed just the four 'regions' - east,
north,
> south and west - which is a great starting point - although I wonder
if we
> shouldn't include some others - or use the 'official' names? Some of
you
> might feel stronger about this or have a better idea than I do.
>
> To use the wikispace, you must log on using your VITTA logon. If you
do
> not
> have one, you can get one from the VITTA web site for free.
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
>
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> [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevin Feely
> Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2007 4:31 PM
> To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Yr7-10it] Re: Rural PD project...so it GROWS!
>
> Hi Kent
> Is wonthaggi, sth Gippsland far enough south?
> regards
> Kevin Feely
>
>
> Kent Beveridge wrote:
> > Hey there Rob! Good onya for jumping on board..
> > Get in touch with Geoff at Shepp..perhaps that could be a starting
> > point for the North chapter..
> > Was just thinking about the Southerners..any takers..its a bit
tricky
> > to define 'South' in terms of Victoria..sorry folks..perhaps
> > Penninsulas is a better term?
> > This idea is still only a baby, but already this baby is growing
> > fast!! What have I created here????
> > Hey Paula C.(our BOS IT guru whom we all know, or should know!), if
> > you are reading this thread, how's this for the 'ideal' virtual
> > collaboration??
> > Following this short thread, I will now shoot an email to my boss
and
> > see what he thinks. Dont know when I'll get a reply though, he's
quite
> > busy with a few projects at school presently.
> > Will give you his response when I get it. This could take a
while.....
> > Again, thanks to the (now) 4 respondents from Orbost, Shepp, Echuca,
> > and AJ. Pretty good coverage for only an idea!!
> > bye for now...
> > Kent.
> > /*Kent Beveridge*,/
> > /I.T. co-ordinator/
> > /St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College/
> > /Horsham/
> > /email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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> > *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Robert
Strachan
> > *Sent:* Sun 12/23/2007 4:30 PM
> > *To:* Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* Re: [Yr7-10it] VITTA Regional PD-a thought..back to
David..
> >
> > Much the same, I am in Echuca and also have the infrastructure to
> > assist a VITTA event.
> >
> > Love to hear more
> >
> > Rob Strachan
> > Echuca College
> > Leading Teacher ICT
> >
> > ___________________________
> >
> >
> > On 23/12/07 4:05 PM, "Hutchison, Geoffrey G"
> > <hutchison.geoffrey.g at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >
> > We are in the north of the state, Shepparton, and would
certainly
> > like to be involved/play a part. Our infrastructure is well
> > suited, but we would need to have some idea of the
> > hardware/software/setup that is envisaged, and an early date to
> > trial it all.
> >
> > One thing, anyone have any idea of the type of data
> > download/upload an hours worth of virtual PD would use?
> >
> > Geoff Hutchison,
> > IT Co-ordinator/Manager,
> > McGuire College,
> > Shepparton, Vic
> >
> >
>
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> > *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kent
Beveridge
> > *Sent:* Sun 12/23/2007 3:10 PM
> > *To:* Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* RE: [Yr7-10it] VITTA Regional PD-a thought..back to
> David..
> >
> > David, here's my response...
> > If, between us, we can get perhaps someone from the North of the
> > state interested, then I reckon that surely will be incentive
> > enough for VITTA, to 'help us' make it work!
> > I know nothing about this technically so its all going to be a
> > first for me, but what a first it 'could' be!
> > I have a great principal who is open to ideas here and it will
be
> > up to me to put to him a valid presentation to encourage him to
> > participate. Our techie here will do what the princ. asks and he
> > is a pretty capable techie.
> > Obviously, a few hurdles will need jumping such as hardware,
time,
> > timetabling, room etc. A weekend is not an issue and can be done
> > so thats an option. My pupils in IT I am sure would be rapt to
be
> > part of this too.
> > Realistically, I've done little extra in 07 other than classroom
> > teach due to extra studies I've been involved in so I should be
> > able to make time for this venture.
> >
> > If you could do me a favour and email me with what you think we
> > need at this end and then I can make enquiries here.
> > As I said, I cant see a reason not to kick it off. Perhaps a
Rural
> > sector of VITTA could be started/launched via this concept.
> >
> > hmmm Orbost you say, nice little place that! Hope you missed the
> > gippsland flooding recently.
> > Merry Christmas.
> > Kent.
> >
> > */Kent Beveridge/*/,
> > I.T. co-ordinator
> > St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> > Horsham
> > //email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
> > /
> > *|<3|\|7 b3\/3r1D93 ? ;-)
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> > *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of David
Doolan
> > *Sent:* Sun 12/23/2007 9:04 AM
> > *To:* 'Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing
List'
> > *Subject:* RE: [Yr7-10it] VITTA Regional PD-a thought..
> >
> > About time, I don't know about you Kent but we have all that is
> > needed, it has been part of my role last year not this year. I
> > went to Perth to see how remote and rural education was handled
> > using technology and we in East Gippsland have been doing it for
a
> > while now. The biggest hurdle will be getting people closer to
the
> > city involved. (I sound bitter) but for years I've been asking
> > subject ass to run pd using this technology and the reply has
> > always been the same Its to hard! They seem to think that it is
> > easer for us to drive 4-5 hours each way.
> > On a brighter side I would be happy to work with you in getting
> > this up. I have the VC software "interwise" that could, so they
> > say can host 1000 participants.
> > The biggest problem is the firewall settings it seams that each
> > school has a different setting, this can be overcome. I would
like
> > to set VITTA a challenge or two and 1. reduce greenhouse gas and
> > not make us drive for hours.
> > 2. help develop this communication method. ( we are Information
> > Technology after all)
> >
> > As I said. We should give it a go, teachers in remote Vic have
> > been doing it for a while now by ourselves.
> >
> > It's the end of the year and I'm sounding So grumpy!
> >
> > Marry Xmass
> >
> > David Doolan
> > Orbost
> > Far East Gippsland Cluster.
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > <mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D> *On Behalf Of *Kent
> > Beveridge
> > *Sent:* Saturday, 22 December 2007 4:35 PM
> > *To:* Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* RE: [Yr7-10it] VITTA Regional PD-a thought..
> >
> >
> > Hey Adrian, here's a thought..and its indirectly curriculum
driven..
> >
> > How about a virtual PD session including camera, voice and file
> > downloads as means of the presentation. Basically, a
> > teleconference of sorts but the camera angles are wide enough to
> > incorporate say, a room of participants. Granted, some time
delay
> > will likely occur of the presenter and the audience but could
this
> > be the ultimate with virtual collaboration.
> >
> > If someone with the right experience was able to assist, I am
> > prepared to perhaps negotiate with my principal to be a venue
for
> > such an event here in the Wimmera.
> >
> > What say VITTA, could we do it?? Is it practical..I reckon
> > yes..cost, perhaps with cameras and phone/internet link and
> > projector with suitable microphones, it could be kept cheap with
> > the right offers of help. Timing? Perhaps early term 2ish ?
Topics
> > to cover...obviously virtual collaboration should be top of
> > list..der..but what about how different people are handling the
> > outcomes..
> >
> > This would be a very sensory display, including most of the
media
> > forms. However, this would need to be limited in numbers as only
> > so many can fit into a classroom size environment with cameras,
> > lights etc also in it. Also it would be better to do it during
> > cooler weather for many reasons.
> >
> >
> >
> > Need..
> >
> > Venues with cameras and sending/receiving equipment and mic's
etc
> > at perhaps 4 venues..one in each of the Northern, Western(me),
> > Eastern(eg Warrigal or say, Bairnsdale etc) and you guys in the
> > City as the 4th and each of us has a link.
> >
> > Yes it will be tricky to do and I have never done this before
but
> > what's to lose? Think of it as a world first! A teachers
> > teleconference on virtual collaboration. Perhaps some commercial
> > sponsors would be interested here to promote their product that
> > could do this?
> >
> > THINK OF THE BRAGGING RIGHTS!
> >
> >
> >
> > What'dya reckon AJ..lets try it and see what can be done..live
on
> > the edge..!
> >
> > Hows that for a whizz bang constructive suggestion for 2008! Get
> > in BEFORE our 08 conference.
> >
> > Any other takers on this one who are reading this? All ideas
here
> > absolutely welcomed!! Ok you country folk, I've put this
> > suggestion out there to zero the road miles via
> > virtuality/technology, ..its now up to us to run with this ball!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > KB.
> >
> >
> >
> > */Kent Beveridge/*/,
> > /
> > /I.T. co-ordinator
> > /
> > /St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> > /
> > /Horsham
> > /
> > /email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
> > /
> >
> >
> > *|<3|\|7 b3\/3r1D93 ? ;-)
> > *
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> >
> >
> > *From:* yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Adrian
Janson
> > *Sent:* Fri 12/21/2007 1:23 PM
> > *To:* 'Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List';
> > 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List';
> > yr7-10it at edulists.com.au; 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers'
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> > *Subject:* [Yr7-10it] VITTA Regional PD
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In response to some of our posts about the PD sessions that we
> > will be running early in Term 1, there have been a number of
> > enquiries regarding regional PD. I wanted to say that we have
not
> > forgotten about the regions - our posts regarding the Term 1,
2008
> > PD sessions at this stage have been based on the larger events
> > that we know we will be running. Actually most of our planning
for
> > PD will take place at our planning weekend early Feb.
> >
> > We will do what we can to support those in the regions with good
> > PD - we understand that it can be very difficult to get into
> > Melbourne (as well as expensive) and schools are not always
> > willing to accommodate your requests. We will release some dates
> > and session details early in Term 1 - so look out for them via
the
> > lists.
> >
> > All the best for a great Christmas break and a fantastic New
Year!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrian Janson
> > VITTA President
> > Director of ICT,
> > Melbourne High School
> >
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