[Yr7-10it] VELS and IT

Sat Jun 10 00:21:08 EST 2006

I agree with Fiona. I have two groups of year 7 students and I'd say 10% of
them have good computer skills, eg can effectively use Word, can logically
organise their home drive and understand the basics of naming files and
folders etc. The other 90% range from very basic computer skills to knowing
how to turn it on and open a program (5-10%). 

Jim 

Jim Bunn
CCNA CCAI
Technology Coordinator
Hampton Park Secondary College
Victoria  Australia
8795 9400

bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au 

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Rachelle 

You would be amazed.  Many of the year 7's can type up a document and edit
but they dont have more refined skills, especially those regarding page
layout and the more complex options.

"Mclean, Rachelle L" <Mclean.Rachelle.L at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Thu, 8 Jun
2006 12:42:28 +1000 wrote:
> Although Fiona, I can't understand why the vast majority of students
> wouldn't already know how to use Word at year 7 when I am teaching it to
> my grade preps and 1s.
> 
> Rachelle McLean
> Pakenham Hills Primary School
> 
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> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] VELS and IT
> 
> I think this is what much of the discussion has been about Debra, namely
> that IT is not being seen as a discrete subject but to be taught as part
> of another subject.  If I was your elearning co-ord I would go back and
> tell them to go away (or words to that effect) and then offer pd in what
> skills they would like to see utilised (as opposed to taught) during a
> particular semester e.g semester 1, English, year 7 - focus on microsoft
> word and basic editing and formatting and this would coincide with the
> year 7 being taught the correct skills in an IT class.  
> 
> If you dont discriminate between the subjects then the English class
> will be spent teaching IT skills and, you then have to ask the all
> important question - what are the English teacher's IT skills like -
> does he/she know what tabs are? can she change the rulers using the side
> margins on the screen? Can he/she explain how the school server works
> and how to save corrently. Now I am going to make a statement regarding
> English teachers that will probably get me hung, and to all those
> computer literate English teachers out there I humbly apologise but, in
> my experience, the English teachers have been the ones who have had the
> most difficulty coming to terms with new technology!
> 
> Fiona Bain
> LT Co-ordinator
> 
> 
> "McDonald, Debra A1" <mcdonald.debra.a1 at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Thu, 8
> Jun 2006 11:43:51 +1000 wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > I may be on the outer her as it has been a while since I have read the
> emails regarding VEL's as I wanted to do so at my leisure instead of
> between classes, but at out school the eLearning coordinator is
> apparently going to hold compulsory PD's that will instruct staff
> (separate PD's for each subject area) what skills they need to be
> teaching each semester and how to do this. now I have no idea on how she
> is planning to do this and I think that in time she will let us know as
> I will be having to assist her in instructing the school in part of this
> because she is not totally proficient in all area's of IT (mainly the
> basics).
> >  
> > what are you guys doing in the PD scheme of things for next year?? and
> how are you running it?
> >  
> > would love to here what is going on out there.
> >  
> > Cheers
> >  
> >  
> > Debra McDonald
> > Network Manager
> > Lyndhurst Secondary College
> > Cranbourne
> > (03) 5996 0144
> >  
> > 
> >
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