[Yr11 Information Technology] yr11it Digest, Vol 129, Issue 8
Mark
mark at vceit.com
Thu Dec 10 13:34:24 AEDT 2015
Exactly!
Last year I did send VCAA my *alternative* study design but they disliked
all the key knowledge about Adam Sandler, 'The Big Bang Theory', and why
GIF is not pronounced "JIFF".
And the my outcome involving watching 10 hours of cat videos just went
RIGHT over their heads.
You just can't please some people.
Mark
On 10 December 2015 at 13:10, Young, Katherine A <
young.katherine.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> I don’t understand why you are not WRITING the study design instead of
> just interpreting and commenting upon it!!!
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:05:01 +1100
> > From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] yr11it Digest, Vol 129,
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> > OK. I broke out the big guns and pulled out the mighty *Shorter Oxford
> > English Dictionary (volume 1)*.
> > It says (paraphrased):
> >
> > *Accurate *
> >
> > - exact or correct
> > - done with care
> >
> > *Correct*
> >
> > - free from error
> > - accurate
> >
> > Gee. *Thanks*, SOED!
> >
> > One interesting example I found online was this:
> >
> > 'Disciplining children is right, but physical punishment is not the
> correct
> > way.'
> >
> > 'Accurate' cannot be substituted for "correct" in that example.
> > It seems that while "correct" is a superlative (something is either
> > accurate or it's not), "accurate" is comparative, and allows a degree of
> > exactness or precision.
> >
> > How that helps the key knowledge, I don't know.
> > Perhaps it means that "data should be not wrong [correct] and closely
> > resemble the actual value of the thing in the real world that they
> > represent [accurate]".
> >
> > Regards
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10 December 2015 at 12:37, Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Katherine. The ambiguity and overlap of the terms is a nuisance.
> Would
> >> it not also be correct or accurate (!) to say that
> >>
> >> "?
> >> When calculating student attendance it would be
> >>
> >> - *inaccurate* to only count days when students were in the classroom
> >> since excursions, incursions etc should also be included
> >> - *incorrect* if someone has erroneously marked the student present,
> >> or absent"
> >>
> >> ?I really wish VCAA would be more careful avoiding these lexical
> >> conundrums that only serve to confuse rather than elucidate the key
> >> knowledge.?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> On 10 December 2015 at 12:19, Young, Katherine A <
> >> young.katherine.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mark,
> >>>
> >>> One possible interpretation:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - correctness means that the correct data items are collected/used to
> >>> generate the required information
> >>> - accuracy means that the values of the (correctly chosen) data items
> >>> are ?. well, accurate!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ??
> >>> Eg -
> >>> ??
> >>> When calculating student attendance it would be
> >>>
> >>> - incorrect to only count days when students were in the classroom
> >>> since excursions, incursions etc should also be included
> >>> - inaccurate if someone has erroneously marked the student present,
> >>> or absent
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Your thoughts????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Katherine Young*
> >>> 11C Mentor
> >>> Mathematics & Information Technology Teacher
> >>>
> >>> *Castlemaine Secondary College*
> >>> *Etty Street Campus*
> >>> Etty Street
> >>> Castlemaine VIC 3450
> >>> T: (03) 5479 4222 | F: (03) 5479 4230
> >>>
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> >>> 1. A Monday Challenge. (Mark)
> >>> 2. Re: A Monday Challenge. (Chris Bucknell)
> >>> 3. Re: A Monday Challenge. (Fitzpatrick, Michael)
> >>> 4. Free Data Visualisation Online Apps ? (Paul Pascoe)
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> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:02:21 +1100
> >>> From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> >>> Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.
> >>> To: "Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List"
> >>> <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
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> >>>
> >>> U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as
> correctness,
> >>> reasonableness and accuracy'
> >>>
> >>> Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference
> >>> between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize
> is
> >>> 50
> >>> brownie points.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study
> design,
> >>> and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested
> if
> >>> anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually
> >>> considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness"
> (free
> >>> from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...
> >>>
> >>> e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be *correct*, but not as *accurate* as
> >>> "3.14159"
> >>>
> >>> Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Mark Kelly
> >>>
> >>> mark at vceit.com
> >>> http://vceit.com
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> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 02:18:16 +0000
> >>> From: Chris Bucknell <Chris.Bucknell at haileybury.vic.edu.au>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.
> >>> To: "Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List"
> >>> <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
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> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> A similar question was raised during my session at the DLTV in-service
> >>> and in a nut shell (I can?t remember the excellent example that my
> audience
> >>> provided):
> >>>
> >>> I can cut a piece of wood to be 2003mm in length (accuracy), but if I
> >>> should have cut a piece of metal it would not be correct.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Chris Bucknell
> >>> Head of ICT; Coord, Internal Exam; House Tutor
> >>> +61 3 9904 6360
> >>> Chris.Bucknell at haileybury.vic.edu.au<mailto:%7bemail%7d>
> >>> www.haileybury.vic.edu.au<http://www.haileybury.vic.edu.au>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> >>> yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
> >>> Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 1:02 PM
> >>> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> >>> Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.
> >>>
> >>> U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as
> correctness,
> >>> reasonableness and accuracy'
> >>>
> >>> Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference
> >>> between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize
> is 50
> >>> brownie points.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study
> design,
> >>> and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested
> if
> >>> anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually
> >>> considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness"
> (free
> >>> from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...
> >>>
> >>> e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be correct, but not as accurate as
> "3.14159"
> >>>
> >>> Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Mark Kelly
> >>>
> >>> mark at vceit.com<mailto:mark at vceit.com>
> >>> http://vceit.com
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> >>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 02:21:24 +0000
> >>> From: "Fitzpatrick, Michael" <michael.fitzpatrick at carey.com.au>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.
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> >>> Like in maths; mark for correct answer but if not to the correct
> decimal
> >>> places then lose a mark.
> >>> Or lose all marks sometimes if correct but not accurate.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> >>> yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
> >>> Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 1:02 PM
> >>> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List <
> >>> yr11it at edulists.com.au>
> >>> Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] A Monday Challenge.
> >>>
> >>> U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as
> correctness,
> >>> reasonableness and accuracy'
> >>>
> >>> Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference
> >>> between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize
> is 50
> >>> brownie points.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study
> design,
> >>> and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested
> if
> >>> anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually
> >>> considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness"
> (free
> >>> from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...
> >>>
> >>> e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be correct, but not as accurate as
> "3.14159"
> >>>
> >>> Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Mark Kelly
> >>>
> >>> mark at vceit.com<mailto:mark at vceit.com>
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> >>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 22:43:50 +0000
> >>> From: Paul Pascoe <passyworld at hotmail.com>
> >>> Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Free Data Visualisation Online
> >>> Apps ?
> >>> To: "yr11it at edulists.com.au" <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
> >>> Message-ID:
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> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am looking at Chapter 2 for VCE Computing, and need to know if anyone
> >>> has some great online Infographic making software that is free and
> makes
> >>> good products.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know about Infogram https://infogr.am/ and Easelly
> >>> http://www.easel.ly/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BUT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> are there other ones like this, that are good to use for Y11 VCE
> >>> Computing Unit 1 Outcome 1 ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have also found some videos:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Video About Infographics
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbFX2QzbOI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Animated Infographics are great like this one of the earth past and
> future
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XkV6IpV2Y0
> >>>
> >>> and this one from "The Infographics Show" YouTube Channel on Obesity:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkoC3HZwe7Q
> >>>
> >>> The Infographics Show channel on YouTube also has good presentations on
> >>> water, and fast foods, and lots of other interesting topics.
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul Pascoe
> >>>
> >>> ICT Teacher
> >>>
> >>> St Francis Xavier College Beaconsfield
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [http://www.easel.ly/images/easelLogo.png]<http://www.easel.ly/>
> >>>
> >>> easel.ly | create and share visual ideas online
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> >>> powerful visuals (infographics, posters)... no design experience
> needed! We
> >>> provide the canvas ...
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >> Mark Kelly
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