[Yr11 Information Technology] U2O1- suggestions for next task with slow internet?

[Esther Andrews]

Yes, we used to have our own internet provider arrangements. Perhaps we've been spoilt...
Thanks for the suggestion Brett. That sounds like an interesting dataset for a class activity.
The issue is that (as I understand it) students need a whole range of datasets from which to choose the data that will solve the problem they're given.
I can use my home internet connection to download a range of datasets tonight and place them on our school's extranet tomorrow (listing the data source for each one) so that students can choose the data that they need. But that is not quite meeting the Key Criteria. And as Mark said, the good datasources, the ones which provide filter options so you can narrow your search, are not downloadable.


From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Howard, David
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2012 3:43 PM
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Don't mean to gloat but...

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From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Groves, Brett G
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Hi Esther,

The connection through Netspace is slow but not THAT slow, at least in our experience. I'd be getting the techs to have a good look at your router settings.
Re offline data sets, one that you can get easy access to is the schools electricity account ring the power company and they will supply it in .csv form). The meters in schools monitor at 15 min intervals and send it off by a cellular data transponder attached to the power board. You can actually find out some quite interesting stuff with a decent visualisation...just a thought.

Regards
Brett Groves
ICT Manager
Croydon Maroondah College
Croydon Campus

From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2012 2:34 PM
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Yes, the department gives us a 100Mbps pipeline, and our service provider gives us a trickle of data along it.
It's like being given a new 8 lane freeway and a mule to use on it.
We alleviate things by having an ADSL connection to a 'real' ISP for the techies to use for their BIG data transfers...

It's a shame that many of these good data sources can't be downloaded or even cached.
Maybe try to find a data source which you can store locally?
On 18 July 2012 12:45, Esther Andrews <ANDREWS.Esther at bssc.edu.au<mailto:ANDREWS.Esther at bssc.edu.au>> wrote:
Our school joined the Department's internet portal (terminology?) at the start of this year. I am finding it is too slow for students to do research. This Outcome 1 requires students to "select appropriate sources of data and identify relevant data". Last year I gave them a list of websites that contained a range of datasets and asked them to select their data. Our web access is so slow I don't think I can do that this year.

Has slow web access been an issue for any of you in government schools?

If so, how are you addressing this? Are you providing the students with the datasets?
(I really don't want to do this, but the situation here is intolerable!!)

Thanks,
Esther

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