[Yr11 Information Technology] Year 11 Final Outcome
Kent Beveridge
kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
Sun Oct 5 17:02:52 EST 2008
Hi Jenna, do I detect a little bit of stress creeping through now we are nearing the year's end?
Here's a little trick I use with my kids for this last outcome. First, get some ideas of what interests 'them'. Then, using your talent and skill as a teacher and organiser(yes, you do have those skills!), it is not unusual to work to the individual skills of your students and 'direct' them with subtle hints in a direction you would like them to go.
Example..
We are persuing a school based task that involves doing an audit of H/W and S/W on the school network, and what roles various individuals play in this. The 'client' is the school and the 'need' is the audit task itself. The students are ficticiously acting as corporate auditors with different specialties. I have 2 students with great hardware skills so they are the 'specialists' for that part of the audit and the other 2 I have pointed them in the direction of HR roles to 'gather relevent information' such as user needs, program needs etc to determine how the current system satisfies the need of the business and what improvement areas to consider - they're proud as punch to know they each play an important role in the task while not all doing exactly the same task. This is how corporates work too, each staffer has their roles to play in the business. Hence...Teamwork...is achieved.
All results are pooled, discussed and decisions made with recommendations and a product then created.
Hope that gave you some ideas...
Kent.
Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Hubbard, Jenna J
Sent: Sat 10/4/2008 10:23 PM
To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Year 11 Final Outcome
Hello,
If anyone has any resources or ideas they would like to share about U2O3, can you please send them to the list as I am a little stuck for ideas as to how to get my students motivated to work in groups.
Thanks
Jenna Hubbard
Cobram Secondary College
-----Original Message-----
From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of David Dawson
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 3:48 PM
To: yr11it at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Data Flow Diagrams
Context -> Level 0 DFD -> ONE process, no datastore, several entities
Level 1 DFD -> 3 processes (approx) lacks detail -> has datastores
(this is the first expansion of the single process Context or level 0)
That is how I learnt it anyway.
David Dawson
Head of Information Technology Learning Area
Head of Learning Technologies
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Wesley College
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>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au 09/04/08 2:52 pm >>>
Hi Litsa.
Yes, the lack of storage shapes definitely marks a CD.
I've seen the Context Diagram as a representation of the system as a
single, featureless black box connected to its external entities. Hence
the 'context'.
Once you open the black box and look inside, you start with DFDs.
Anyway, many sites say CD = DFD level zero. There seem to be different
opinions on the definitions...
Litsa Tzelepis wrote:
> hi mark,
>
> i was going by the definitions in the book, but that's how i got taught
> these diagrams at uni too - context diagrams are a representation of the
> info. system without the inclusion of storage files, and the level 0
> diagram is when the files are also drawn in and each process is
> labelled, 1, 2, 3, etc. Level 1 diagrams are when the bubbles are broken
> down further and labelled 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. And so it goes..
>
> sorry if i have confused anyone, litsa
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> To: "Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List"
> <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Data Flow Diagrams
>
>
>> I've always believed context diagrams WERE Level 0 DFDs...
>>
>> Googling seems to confirm it.
>>
>> Robert Minato wrote:
>>> Thanks for the reply Laurie and Litsa
>>>
>>> Don't have IT at work in our library but I like Litsa's idea of only
>>> going to Level 0.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestions
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> Robert Minato
>>> Technology Domain Leader
>>> Catholic College Wodonga
>>> 02 6043 5546
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/09/2008, at 10:57 AM, Litsa Tzelepis wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello.
>>>> i also use potts, but i have the jacaranda text for the occassional
>>>> backup.
>>>> if you have this text, try go to page 255 - 258. this should help.
>>>> i teach context diagrams and then level 0 - i then discuss level 1,
>>>> level 2, etc. but tell the students they only need to worry about
>>>> the context diagram and level 0.
>>>> hope this helps, litsa
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Robert Minato <mailto:rminato at ccw.vic.edu.au>
>>>> *To:* Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
>>>> <mailto:yr11it at edulists.com.au>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:57 AM
>>>> *Subject:* [Yr11 Information Technology] Data Flow Diagrams
>>>>
>>>> I'm preparing for DFDs, something I've not taught before. The
>>>> Potts text give two pages of, too me, brief cover. When I look at
>>>> the DFD examples on the VITTA support cd, I feel I'm way short of
>>>> knowing much about them. Context/level 0 diagrams are fine, but
>>>> going further seems to leave a lot of interpretation to the
>>>> imagination. Given that my students aren't very worldly, I don't
>>>> expect them to grasp the topic very easily.
>>>>
>>>> How deep are we expected to cover DFDs? The study design
>>>> lists: tools for representing data ?ows, including data ? ow
>>>> diagrams.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any notes to better exp! lain level 1 and level 2?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> Robert Minato
>>>> Technology Domain Leader
>>>> Catholic College Wodonga
>>>> 02 6043 5546
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Kelly
>> Manager - Information Systems
>> McKinnon Secondary College
>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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