[Yr11 Information Technology] Request for opinions, help, comments or any other feedback

[Dr Paul Chandler]

The built in tutorials are pretty good.  Yes, I think you could get some
decent work out of them in 4 weeks. 

I have sent my lesson sequence on to Kevork .. If anyone else is
interested, please let me know.

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[mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:53 AM
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Hi and thanks Paul,

 I was browsing some Alice books yesterday in fact,  and of course I can
quickly google for online tutes etc.
But is there a site or sites or references you like that would be worth
visiting for first stop and quick evaluation purposes ?
Also, 4 weeks to learn Alice ( about which I know next to nothing except
it handles 3 D ) , feasible ?  and will it do justice to the kids ??

Regards
Kevork 

>>> "Dr Paul Chandler" <paul.chandler at yvg.vic.edu.au> 21/05/2008 11:24 
>>> am >>>

Do Alice ... And the advanced kids can hook it into Python 

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Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Request for opinions,
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Hi Folks,


    I am at the horns of a dilemma ( sort of ) and need your help.

I am taking a Yr10 Programming class in 4 weeks for Semester 2 and can't
decide which language to use. I can count on 18 weeks at 3 periods of 72
min per week.

My criteria are :
  1. It has to be fun, exciting and addictive so the kids are hooked and
want to follow through with more in senior level(s).
  2. It has to be reasonably rigorous and not a wizard driven, micky
mouse gimmicky all sugar and no educational nutrition type of
experience.
  3. It has to be educational with the teaching of correct programming
techniques, and extendible skills into future programming and other
languages
  4. It has to have some file storage capability and understanding of
input and output beyond only user generated input at runtime.

My choices are ( these are more than 2 horns I admit ) :

 1. VB.NET
 2. Flash and Actionscript
 3. Python (we do this in Yr 11 )
 4. PHP and MySQL ( we do this in Yr 12 )  5. Java ( too hard )  6.
C/C++ ( too hard )  7. other 


    I am leaning towards Flash and Actionscript not least for its whiz
bang features and some OOP programming and object handling as well as
web based deployment and beautification of web applications.  


   Any feedback welcome 


Take Care



Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
Mobile: 0419 356 034


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