[Yr11 Information Technology] Re: Unit 2 Outcome 1:Programming
margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net
margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net
Thu Jun 14 12:12:27 EST 2007
Wouldn't this be a great "panel" discussion for the end of the year
conference? Get a few passionate bodies, a few key questions, some "blue
sky" thinkers and voila ....
Regards
Margaret
On Thu, June 14, 2007 10:53 am, Kevork Krozian wrote:
> Hi Steven,
>
>
> Thanks for your input. It is great to be kept up to date with the
> direction of the Universities.
>
> I think back to the mid to late 80s ( yes, I am that old ! ) when
> schools brought in Computer Science in Yr 11 and 12 which were really the
> Computer Science Uni course I did in the early 80s filtered down . I
> remember fondly the different searching algorithms , min and max search
> times ( comparisons ) , file structures, recursion with the Towers of
> Hanoi problem, functions and procedures and parameter passing, numerical
> computations, data structures ( linked lists, binary trees, balanced and
> unbalanced trees ) ....
>
> And then with the advent of the VCE in 1990 the idea was that we are
> not only teaching students to prepare for tertiary courses but to also have
> a breadth of knowledge not restricted to excelling simply for tertiary
> selection.
>
> In view of or even despite the above, do you have a strong opinion
> either way as to what secondary schools should be teaching in terms of
>
> 1. The IT course content in general
> 2. The programming languages taught at each year level
> 3. The degree of difficulty students should achieve at each year
> level 4. Do they need ANY IT before they come to you
> 5. What prerequisite would you like to set for Uni candidates coming
> to your course ? 6. Is there anything you wish they could "unlearn" before
> they start your course ?
>
>
> I would be very interested in your perspective .
>
>
>
> With thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
> Mobile: 0419 356 034
>
>
>>>> sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au 13/06/2007 1:15 pm >>>
>> Our students do Flash in Yr 9, VB.NET in Yr 10, PHP and MySQL in
>>
> Yr
>
>> 12 so I am thinking I might go with either :
>>
>>
>> 1. Basic PHP/MySQL or
>> 2. VBA behind Access or Excel or
>> 3. ASP in web pages or
>> 4. java or
>> 5. javascript or
>> 6. python
>>
>
> As I've mentioned previously on this list, we've chosen Python in our
> new first year IT subjects at Melbourne University. Sydney Uni also
> teaches Python in its first year IT curriculum.
>
> More detail on our new first year informatics subjects is available
> here:
> http://www.informatics.unimelb.edu.au/
>
>
>
> Steven Bird
> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/
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