[vet-mm] Fw: What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Litsa Tzelepis
htzelepis at msj.melb.catholic.edu.au
Thu Nov 5 21:46:12 EST 2009
\\from Raymon Nashar
Hi Kevork & Litsa,
I just read the last few posts. (thnx for the kind words Litsa!) To help answer some of your Qs, Kevork, it's my 1st year as eLearning Cooordinator @ MSJ (where Litsa is) and I've taken the "stepwise refinement process".
One reason being that it allows for the naturally occuring organic growth of the curriculum to continue to develop along side the evolving technological advances.
To deconstruct and reconstruct courses is difficult enough for teachers, in my opinion, without the added pressure of having to "add" an ICT element. The approach of "adding" ICT to a course also tends to trivialise ICT and cause it to be percieved as a seperate and novel addition to any course, rather than a truly integrated and living organ within the curriculum.
The "stepwise" approach also allows teachers to take ownership of the changes in 'their' course. Ownership of any change to a course is much more permanent than any change that is percieved as forced and laboured.
A major part of my job, as I see it, is to assist in promoting ideas. I help teachers see which technogies may assist them in their particular course. I show them things that might help achieve the goals they already have, that will engage students and save both parties time and I assist the teacher in ther ability and confidence in using that technology.
It isn't easy, independantly:
"To identify new and emerging computer based learning technologies capable of enhancing the quality of the educational program and outcomes for all students in the College ".
...so I don't! :) I do it in consultation with the teacher who is the expert in their area. I give an idea or two, WE try it out with as much support from me as possible, and we refine it wherever needed. When it's successful (and it isn't always) it creates a buzz around that faculty and (fingers crossed!) eventually permiates throughout the school. A few successes and a ripple turns into a wave.
I see this approach as only one key strategy in the process of changing the way teahers have done things for hundreds of years.
Other key strategies/ingredients include:
- loads of promotion of success stories (especially if local)
- keeping staff aware of changes in the culture of the planet (like the stuff that allows me to be typing this out on my iPhone whilst I watch NCIS in my PJ's)
- and the eLearming Coordinator REALLY needs the support of a forward thinking principal and leadership team
- as well as an ICT Dept that supports the trial of new technologies.
We do have a great mix and I'm in an awesome position at MSJ. Most staff members are also very supportive and want to learn.
I hope that helps! :)
Raymond Nashar
eLearning Coordinator
Mount Saint Joseph Girls' College
133 Maidstone Street
Altona, Victoria, Australia 3018
p :: 03 8398 2000
f :: 03 9398 3498
w :: www.msj.vic.edu.au
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:38:32 +1100
From: "Kevork Krozian" <kevork at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
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Hi Litsa,
It sounds like you have a truly integrated team working very well together rather than pushing the elearning person out the front to do it all. I think that is the key and the balance sounds spot on at your school. It was presumptuous of me to assume otherwise .. sorry ...:))
Thanks again for sharing the job description.
I do have a question about the journey from the inception of the elearning job to the present. Was it necessary to deconstruct and reconstruct the curriculum in each area or was it a stepwise refinement process to move towards the embedding of learning technologies ?
Thanks again
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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From: Litsa Tzelepis
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:06 PM
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Hello Kevork,
I totally understand.
As far as I know though, our e-learning co-ordinator regularly liaises with faculty convenors and the director learning and teaching, as well as teaching staff along the way, to help keep up with the whole technology extravaganza. It is a massive job if its done properly. Our e-learning person is so switched on; calm, approachable and highly qualfied to guide the rest of us. He does a marvelous job. But I get what you're saying.
Litsa {:-)
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From: Kevork Krozian
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:50 PM
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Hi Litsa,
I do worry about some of these statements in the job descriptions. Eg.
"To identify new and emerging computer based learning technologies capable of enhancing the quality of the educational program and outcomes for all students in the College ".
Am I missing something here ?
The poor elearning coordinator has to identify what emerging technologies will enhance the educational programs of ALL students:
1. Integral calculus in maths
2. Appreciation of art
3. Robotics programming
4. English literacy
5. Analysis of geographical features in landscapes and satellite data
6. CAD/CAM in technology
should I go on ?
Can such a person ever be qualified to identify such emerging technologies in ALL educational programs ?
Frankly whoever writes these job descriptions does not understand what an elearning coordinator can and can't do. As long as the word embed is in the statement somehow it makes it ok.
It is the job of the learning area manager and level manager (VELS speak) to identify the technology and then ask the elearning coordinator to assist with its implementation, staff PD and monitoring of uptake. The elearning coordinator has to understand the network, how software can be deployed and how it can be used and applied. If he or she does not then it is best to just let the network manager do this part of the job.
Some controversial statements or really a statement of how things can work efficiently with true successful outcomes ?
Happy to discuss and expand.
Best Wishes
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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From: Litsa Tzelepis
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hello Paul,
here is our role description for our e-learning co-ordinator.
Hope it helps, Litsa
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From: mppascoe at tpg.com.au
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi everyone,
Sorry for any cross posts and being off topic perhaps, but:
My school is creating a new position for an "e-learning coordinator" for next year.
Just out of interest, what do existing e-learning coordinators do in other schools ?
Run the moodle, and school website, organize ICT PD for staff on podcasting, vodcasting, and other things, Review software and technology, formulate strategic plans, team-teach helping teachers out with software and technology, and ??????
Thanks,
Paul Pascoe
St Francis Xavier College Berwick
mppascoe at tpg.com.au
http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:35:02 +1100
From: "Kevork Krozian" <kevork at edulists.com.au>
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Hi again folks,
Following from thread recently begun on the vet mm list I have cross posted to the elearning list and have set up a wiki at www.edulists.com.au to assist in the tasks an elearning manager performs by adding categories for "Action Plan timeline" , " elearning hardware and software by KLA and VELS level" and any others we think we need.
The link is at http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning or through the Edulists Wiki index item embedding _elearning .
Anyone can contribute. It takes a few seconds to set up an account if you don't have one. I have started off the wiki and would love everyone else to join in and build it up .
Any queries feel free to contact me
With thanks
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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From: Kevork Krozian
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:51 AM
Subject: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do ?
Hi Folks,
A cross post as this was originally a request on the vet multimedia list.
Just wondering if people would be happy to post their job descriptions in the elearning manager/director/coordinator job.
Also, at what level of responsibility and time allowance is this job or its equivalent being done ?
Take Care
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
www.edulists.com.au
Tel: 0419 356 034
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