[vet-mm] Scripting removed from new CertIIIInteractiveMediacourse
?
claire
claire at warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au
Tue Sep 16 18:34:41 EST 2008
Paul,
I'm not sure which panel you are referring to? It was not the VCAA
panel that decided to leave scripting out.
The industry peak body devised the new training package and qualifications.
Whether we like it or not, that's what our course must fit within.
Check out the IBSA website for more information -
> Innovation and Business Skills Australia (IBSA) is one of eleven
> Industry Skills Councils for the Vocational Education and Training
> (VET) system recognised and funded by the Australian Government. IBSA
> covers:
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> Business Services;
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> Cultural and Related Industries;
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> Education;
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> Financial Services;
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> Information and Communication Technologies; and
> *
> Printing and Graphic Arts.
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> IBSA develops competency standards and qualifications for workforce
> skills development and training that are recognised throughout Australia.
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> It’s our job to consult with industry and set the skill standards for
> the above industries – standards that help employers and their teams
> achieve peak performance.
>
I would be contacting IBSA if I wanted to find out more about the
rationale for not including scripting at Cert 3 level.
However, as discussed previously I think there is scope to include
scripting in a number of the new units, don't you think your students
can achieve the same or similar skill set?
Regards
Claire Bloom
Paul Sijpkes wrote:
> I’m sorry but I worked in industry and the statement that “no-one with
> a cert III would be allowed to do any programming in the real world
> situation through lack of knowledge” is not completely correct. Many
> companies employ people on a portfolio basis; any degree or diploma
> qualifications are often optional. Of course it always helps to have
> formal qualifications but they are definitely not essential. I worked
> in one business where my boss had dropped out of school in Year 10,
> and here was I with a Computer Science Grad Dip!
>
>
>
> I agree with Rachelle I think this will make Multimedia be seen as a
> “making pretty digital pictures” subject, rather than a rigorous
> discipline. My students have gained an enormous skill set from having
> scripting in the course and this has not detracted from their
> creativity. If anything it opens up a whole new world of creativity to
> them, and I really don’t know how you can call a subject “Interactive
> Media” and not have any means to actually make the content interactive!
>
>
>
> I am deeply disappointed that the panel decided to go down this path,
> I know most people disagree with me, but so be it...
>
>
> Paul Sijpkes
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> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Andrew Shortell
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:07 AM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new
> CertIIIInteractiveMediacourse ?
>
>
>
> The industry representatives on the panel pointed out that no-one with
> a cert III would be allowed to do any programming in the real world
> situation through lack of knowledge. The absolute minimum for being
> allowed to do any programming in the real world environment was Cert
> IV and even that was monitored carefully. Thus the training package
> did not include any scripting in Cert III because the training package
> is designed for training in real world environments.
>
>
>
> The IT people on the panel did express disappointment (after all, I
> actually understand that part of the course as opposed to that stuff
> about colours that I cannot even see!!) but there really was no option.
>
>
>
> Scripting is GONE. Either accept it. (There is no choice)
>
>
>
> Andrew Shortell
>
> Braemar College
>
>
>
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brian Pearce
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 9:21 AM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert
> IIIInteractiveMediacourse ?
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>
>
> I have been keeping track of the multimedia job ads through SEEK and
> the highest paying of the hands-on multimedia jobs seem to be for
> Flash developers. I’m not sure how we can prepare them for this option
> if we don’t have scripting as an integral part of the course. I will
> be including it as much as I am allowed under the new structure, but
> if it’s not examined it might have to be as a bit of an optional
> extension. They don’t all love it but at least the ones who do can
> recognise that they have a talent for it and start down that pathway.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Brian Pearce
>
>
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> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mclean, Rachelle L
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 5:19 PM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert III
> InteractiveMediacourse ?
>
>
>
> I’m sad to see it go. I’ve always liked the scripting unit. The kids
> need something in there to stretch the brain cells a bit, plus it
> gives the course more credibility I think, so it’s not just a ‘make
> pretty digital things’ course. I’m hoping to get it going in my
> school for 2010 and will stick some scripting in there somewhere.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Rachelle
>
>
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> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Stoney, Marian Sy
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 11:59 AM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert III
> InteractiveMedia course ?
>
>
>
> Hi Kevork,
>
> I for one am sad to see the demise of scripting. The reason it was
> left out, not removed, is that there was no scripting option to choose
> from among the many units available at Cert III level. From memory, it
> is offered at Cert IV level now. There has been a general slight
> downward movement in the level of the Cert III units in the new TP as
> compared to the old.
>
> I am considering teaching some Actionscript in the first year of Cert
> III as part of the Critical Thinking unit, as I think knowledge of a
> scripting language is very relevant in a subject called Interactive
> Digital Media. The Author Interactive Sequences unit seems geared to
> web design - in fact, we included it to ensure that web design was
> covered explicitly somewhere in the course.
>
> I'm speaking from memory here - anyone else from the Advisory
> committee is welcome to correct my recall of events,
>
> Regards,
>
> Marian
>
>
>
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> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevork Krozian
> Sent: Tue 9/09/2008 9:58 AM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert III
> InteractiveMedia course ?
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> How do others read the new course re scripting ?
> I have noticed the "CUFDIG302A Author Interactive Sequences" Unit of
> Competence as perhaps the best candidate for scripting.
>
> Design specifications
> may include:
> * interactive script
>
> I expect most people won't do the extra if it is not mandatory. How
> does everyone feel about this after all the scripting they learned and
> developed ?
> Perhaps if any who were on the steering committee read this they can
> tell us the rationale behind the removal.
>
> Best Wishes
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
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