[vet-mm] Request for information

Fri May 2 14:20:30 EST 2008

Hi Alan, Kevork and everyone.

I agree that the course has been made very general, I personally think that the 
generic  modules that cover thinking techniques/OH&S/Work effefctively with others 
(which seem to now be manditory for all NEW courses be they multimedia or hospitality 
or community services)will be the death of multi in my school.  The kids just want to 
create not 
learn how to be safe, reliable and compliant workers.

I tend to think that we'll end up with a modified cert 2, but I can't see too many 
kids getting excited over 2 units on writing, 2 units on thinking, units on ;industry 
knowledge, OH&S, and  working with others.  Even the specialist units look dry 
MAINTAIN interactive content, USE multimedia & create & test CDROM/DVD. What ever 
happened to kids creating and wasn't their something called the internet coming that 
would have some impact on society?. Shouldn't we do a bit on this?

I had my rant as part of the review consultation process of the new training package 
and its too late now but it seems a shame. 

Before we worry too much about what the 2009 course will look like we need to find out 
what is happening at VCAA. They control what units we need to deliver for VET in 
schools. The VET unit at VCAA is so under resourced its likely that the new course 
won't be in schools intil 2010 at the earliest.  The current course was published in 
May 2001 but wasn't implemented in schools by VCAA until 2003.

--
Nic Ryan
ICT Coordinator
South Gippsland Secondary College

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Kevork Krozian <kevork at edulists.com.au>
To: "VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List" <vet-mm at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:34:19 +1000
Subject: Re: [vet-mm] Request for information

> Hi Allan,
> 
> Thanks for all this work and your readiness to share.
> 
> I was aware of the new package being under consideration. I guess the 
> problem for me was the experience of the VET IT review in which I was a 
> panel member.
> 
> The final shape of the VET course was a partial Certificate III as VET IT 
> units 1 - 4 ( cf. a full Cert III in the previous version ) and this was 
> only a selection of units of competence from the Training Package. So some 
> units were included, others were left out which would have been almost 
> impossible to know before the review.
> I am guessing the VET Multimedia may have similar treatment and so it will 
> be hard to know what to write as the form, composition and names of 
> Certificates ( partial or full ), amount of VCE credits, and what electives 
> if any will be available.
> 
> Ultimately we may need to write something like the following for the 
> handbook :
> "At the time of writing the Film, Television, Radio and Multimedia Training 
> Package is under review. Once the new package is endorsed, a revised VCE VET 
> program will be developed ready for implementation in 2009. Students will be 
> advised regarding the details of the new Certificates, equivalent VCE unit 
> credits etc once these are published by the VCAA"
> 
> Hope this makes sense
> 
> Thanks once again
> Kevork Krozian
> Edulists Creator and Administrator
> www.edulists.com.au
> kevork at edulists.com.au
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allan Barnes" <abarnes at aiet.com.au>
> To: "'VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List'" <vet-mm at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Request for information
> 
> > Hi Kevork and fellow Multimedia-ites
> >
> > I posted a comparison of the old to new training package a week or so ago
> > but not sure if it got the list or not - I don't recall seeing any 
> > comments
> > on it, so have re-attached it here.
> >
> > There do seem to be quite a few changes to the course, it seems to have 
> > gone
> > a lot more general as it now covers not just MM but film, tv and radio as
> > well.
> >
> > Hopefully VCAA will release the Program Guide as early as possible to give
> > teachers (and commercial providers of student workbooks) time to put a new
> > course together before the start of next year.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Allan Barnes, CEO
> > Australian Institute of Education and Training
> > P.O. Box 171
> > Brunswick West 3055
> > Ph: (03) 9387 2051
> > FAX: (03) 9387 3470
> > Mobile: 0409 428 221
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> > [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
> > Sent: Thursday, 1 May 2008 12:43 PM
> > To: vet-mm at edulists.com.au
> > Subject: [vet-mm] Request for information
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Not having taught VET MM and not having had a class for the last 2
> > years, I need some assistance in preparing the VCE handbook for next
> > year please.
> >
> > I have read the VCAA advice that states :
> > "The Film, Television, Radio and Multimedia Training Package is
> > currently under review. Once the new package is endorsed, a revised VCE
> > VET program will be developed ready for implementation in 2009."
> >
> > Currently we have the blurb from the previous version ( or is it still
> > current ?) as follows :
> >
> > Certificate II in Multimedia (VCE VET Units 1 * 2) :
> >
> > The aims of the VCE VET Multimedia program are to :
> > * provide participants with the knowledge and skills development
> > for the achievement of units of competence that will enhance their
> > employment within the multimedia industry
> > * enable participants to gain a recognised credential and make a
> > more
> > informed choice of vocational and career paths.
> >
> > Units of Competence include:
> > Develop and apply industry knowledge
> > Follow health, safety and security procedures
> > Create, manipulate and incorporate 2D graphics
> > Identify components of multimedia
> > Incorporate text into multimedia presentations
> > Incorporate audio into multimedia presentations
> > Produce and manipulate digital images
> > Update webpages
> > Use an authoring tool to create an interactive sequence
> > Use advanced features of computer applications*
> > *This unit of competence is completed over 2 years
> >
> > Certifi cate III in Multimedia (VCE VET Units 3 * 4)
> >
> > Units of Competence include:
> >
> > Apply principles of visual design and communication to the
> > development of a media product
> > Create 2D digital animation
> > Develop a multimedia script
> > Create webpages with multimedia
> > Write content and/or copy
> > Use advanced features of computer applications*
> > *This unit of competence is completed over 2 years
> >
> >  To what extent is the above description still accurate or will the
> > new package completely replace all of the above at both Cert II and Cert
> > III  ?
> > Where can I get the an outline of the blurb for next year if the above
> > is not accurate ? or is that simply impossible at the moment ?
> >
> > With thanks and Kind Regards
> > Kevork
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