[vet-mm] VCE VET IDM

Tue Aug 5 10:09:20 EST 2008

There is also the issue that all of the industry representatives on the
panel were of the opinion that a cert 2 was no use in getting a job in
the industry. The cert 3 is the minimum to actually be employed in
interactive media and people with only  a cert 3 were not actually going
to be allowed in most cases to touch scripting in a work environment so
it might be more sensible to only have it appear in cert 4.

There is a great opportunity to make the course exciting while still
staying within the confines of the course - especially for the more
"arty" amongst us. The IT people (such as me) will need some more
support to be "arty" but the students should (I hope) stress less over
this course.

Anyone who worries about partial completion:  if they drop off after
year 11 / unit 1,2 then change their mind a year later any TAFE should
give them RPL for what they have already done - especially if the TAFE
is their RTO 

Any student who has chosen it already for next year is taking our
enthusiasm on faith and believes that we can produce a course that will
be good. So let's do it.

Btw: is there anyone who is prepared to set up a common moodle / wiki
for all to access and share on?
That could be the best way around the issue of resources and sharing and
we could treat it as common ground.

Andrew Shortell
Braemar College

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[mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of claire
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 9:45 AM
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Because it was not possible to complete the new Cert 3 in one year,
there was a dilemma, ie that students finish Units 1-4 with only a Cert
2 and partial Cert 3. 
I think industry, tertiary institutions and most teachers would agree it
is better to come out of VCE with a completed Cert 3. Doing Cert 2 and 3
really requires 3 years so some schools may offer the Cert 2 at year 10
and then go onto Cert 3 at year 11 and 12. 
Claire Bloom
Warrandyte High

> Michelle Dennis <mdennis at mentonegirls.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> To me, it depends on your perspective and how you're selling it to the
> kids.  For my students, having a certificate at the end of year 11 if
> they wish to do the 1/2 sequence is a drawcard and has increased
> enrolment.  Year 10s especially don't want to necessarily commit to a
2
> year course until they get a chance to see what it is like, but also
> perceive partial-completions as being less than desirable.
> 
> Michelle Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brian Pearce
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 8:24 AM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
> 
> Hi Ana,
> 
> I can see too, but now I have a headache.
> 
> Does it mean that we have to provide both Yr 11 pathways so that those
> who chose to finish at Yr 11 have a "certificate". It seems if we just
> offer the Cert III in Media those that drop out at Yr 11 will only
have
> a partial completion of Cert III in Media. Will this be any better or
> worse than a completed Cert II in Creative Industries ( Media )? Does
> the VCAA require that we offer both Certificates or is it optional?
> 
> Also, without seeing the details, it looks like it might be possible
to
> maintain some scripting under the Author Interactive Sequences UOC.
> 
> I suppose when we hear more details, including what will be examined,
> the way to proceed will become clearer.
> 
> Brian Pearce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ana Tuckerman
> Sent: Monday, 4 August 2008 5:25 PM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
> 
> Yahh,
> I can see, i know, i can prepare.
> 
> First, we have to start calling it "VCE VET Interactive Digital Media"
> NOT Cert 3 in media.
> Next, why bother with cert 2?
> Third, if copywrite is an elective, do we have to teach it for the
year
> 12 exam?
> Fourth, for those who want it, there is 3D (i have to say I'm not
going
> to do it though, its not in the year 12 course).
> Fifth, we now have Video in year 12, AHHHHHHHHH
> Sixth, I'm assuming that they want us to teach Web, in Author
> interactive sequences.
> Seven, NO SCRIPTING!
> 
> >From my perspective, I am just going to use Unit 1 & 2 to teach all
the
> software and concepts that they need in Unit 3 & 4 and just adapt the
> units to fit. 
> 
> For example i might use "Produce drawings to represent and communicate
> the concept" to do a comic with storyboard, using flash with buttons
and
> a little animation (to prepare for 2d animation) 
> 
> "Maintain interactive content" would be an introduction to "Author
> interactive sequences" 
> 
> And the Compulsory units, you could do anything. Just work in the
> requirements with any kind of practical task. 
> 
> I'm OK with it all. It looks VERY flexible.
> 
> :) Ana
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Ana Tuckerman
> Multimedia and Media Department
> ELTHAM College of Education
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of claire
> Sent: Mon 8/4/2008 4:50 PM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
>  
> 
> The revised VCE VET Interactive Digital Media (IDM)  program has now
> successfully progressed though all the required internal committees
and
> processes at the VCAA.
> Attached is a PDF extract from the soon to be published VCE VET IDM
> program booklet. This extract has "gone live" on the VCAA website
today.
> VCAA have made available an extract for both the revised Business and
> Multimedia programs because they were fielding a large number of calls
> and
> emails about the programs for next year.
> 
> The complete hard copy of the program booklet will be distributed to
> schools early in Term IV.
> 
> Let the discussions begin!!
> 
> Claire Bloom
> Warrandyte High
> 
> 
> 
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