[vet-mm] 2006 exam

[Mario Yannakakis]

We have tried for so many years to get an understanding of what it is that
we as teachers/trainers for VET in schools are suppose to teach that it
really annoys me and it really makes me wonder whether I really want to
teach in the future!!!

Please forget about impact creativity because they are just business minded
people. Ofcoarse they will support scripting because they want their
graduates to come and work within a production based programming role for
their clients and they, just like every other business will give their
employees next to nothing for an entry level role.

This is just my opinion!

Mario Yannakakis






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From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of peterfowler at optusnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 5:07 PM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-mm] 2006 exam

You are dead right Susan,
The exam is supposed to test of the whole course at year 12, its not
intended to focus on individual competencies.
The students greater understanding of programming is assessed as part of a
scored SAC.
In most cases the MM job market will not be interested in students with a
Cert III qualification. 
Part of our role is to provide student with a broad understanding of the MM
industry, they usually specialize when they hit University.
So lets put our personal bias on hold and lets try to get a better balance
in the exam next time around.
Yours Sincerely 
Peter Fowler
Swinburne Senior Secondary College



> Susan Bell <Susan.Bell at wesleycollege.net> wrote:
> 
> I think the issue here was about programming in the exam - not whether
> you need programming when  students venture into the job market. No one
> is denying that programming is important - but the exam was biased
> towards scripting which is simply not fair in a year 12 exam. 
> Sue
> >>> daylan at impactcreativity.com.au 11/15/06 04:28pm >>>
> Hi all,
>           I've been training Cert 2, 3 and diploma level multimedia for
> 
> the past 3 years and working in the industry (clients etc) for 4 years.
> 
> This is my final year of training students however as i will be 
> venturing of into that big, murderous multimedia world to work for MYOB
> 
> but i thought i might add my 2 cents too.
>   I felt that there wasn't enough emphasis on programming in the exam
> or 
> in the course in general. I personally tried to train my students in a
> 
> way that would give them actual skills that are relevant for industry,
> 
> as well of course, as meeting competencies. And while i agree design is
> 
> important, i fell that its only about 20% of most jobs.
> You just need to look at it.seek.com etc to see that 98% of jobs in the
> 
> industry require more than awesome photoshop and design skills. In fact
> 
> i'd say 80% don't even care if you are good at design, they want you to
> 
> be a programmer.
> Its extremely hard in the industry to find a job that is purely design
> 
> and even if you do they are usually the lowest paying jobs.
> Design is the fun stuff and it's a lot easier to keep students 
> attention with fun things, but as far as vocational training goes, i 
> feel programming is a much more important skill for students to walk 
> away with. 
> 
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