[vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Thu Aug 12 20:23:28 EST 2010

Hi everyone

I am working through things with Quentin as the units appear to be an issue
as Rod indicated. Thanks for the assistance especially Kent and Rod.

Regards

Peter Nash

IT Teacher, VET Coordinator, VCAA State Reviewer VET IT

Galvin Park Secondary College

Shaws Road

Werribee. VIC. 3030

Tel: 03 97414911

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From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Berger, Rodney V
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 5:12 PM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Hi all

The modules listed are from cert 111 units 1&2, also some from units 3&4,
with some from the additional 3&4 elective units.

It maybe more beneficial if he enrols them all in Cert 11 as it would appear
that they may have completed 9 equivalent modules out of the sixteen Cert 11
modules.

There would still be a small window of opportunity to complete the Cert 11
course.

Note: It may well be a tailored program to suit their students.

Regards

Rod Berger

Benalla College

0357612777

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From: Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thu 12/08/2010 4:35 PM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Sounds to me like you need to now make contact with your VASS person there
and determine from them, the details of course name, stream etc. 

ie..have they enrolled the students as Cert 2 or Cert 3? 

Do you plan to do scored assessment, or has it been done/started? If YES to
this one..has an assessment plan been submitted via VASS, or not?(to the
VASS person for system entry).

Looks like a combo of software and hardware units from your list.

Are you being auspiced by an RTO?  Or is your school an RTO?

Or..this might just be a course "tailored to the needs of the learners"?   

Are there individual training plans?

An overall training plan?

ATTACHED: I have attached my training plans for my Cert 2 and 3 courses
plus, my VCAA 'Assessment Plan'  that I am following for my Cert 3 course.
Also attached is an official pdf doc that you perhaps could browse and maybe
this could clear up some questions...

have a look and see if these link to what you have. If they help ...thats
great.   

Here is the link to the VCAA vet stuff that you should have a squiz at...it
may answer a few of your questions..

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vet/programs/infotech/infotech.html

Sounds to me like your setup has heaps of potential to do 'a lot in a
hurry!' depending on how NOS and OS 'savvy' you are!

Any more questions..if I can help I will!!

Hey, just thought of a great idea Quentin...give the folk at the VCAA a
call(VET studies unit) and have a yak if you're not sure...surely they can
perhaps give you some good help too.

You've got my email now for further chats....

Hey Nashy...you've entered lots of these...what's your thought here?

Kent Beveridge

ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.

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From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
behalf of Lydall, Quentin C [lydall.quentin.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 2:13 PM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Thanks for the contact, Kent, Peter, it's good to be in touch with teachers
who know more about this course.  No one here at Heywood knows exactly what
stream we are doing.  I inherited the class from another teacher, who left
no concrete information.  There is a fair bit of networking involved, so I
think that is their stream.  Could you please enlighten me?  

The modules the students are enrolled in are:

BSBCMN106A Follow Workplace Safety Procedures

ICAD2012A Design Organisational Documents Using Computing Packages

ICAI3021A Connect Internal Hardware Components

ICAI3110A Implement System Software Changes

ICAS3032A Provide Network Systems Administration

ICAS3121A Administer Network Peripherals

ICAS3234B Care For Computer Hardware

ICAU1128A Operate A Personal Computer

ICAD2005A Operate Computer Hardware

ICAD2006A Operate Computing Packages

ICAU2013A Integrate Commercial Computing Packages

ICAU2231A Use Computer Operating System

ICAU3019A Migrate to New Technology

ICAW2001A Work Effectively In An IT Environment

ICAW2002A Communicate In The Workplace

ICPMM321A Capture A Digital Image

I have downloaded the NTIS documents which define the criteria for each
module.  So far, I am assessing using several methods, including
observation, checking the required hours are done, assessing submitted work
based on the NTIS assessment criteria.  I have also given them some online
theory tests (using Moodle).  

We have a room with, potentially, a stand-alone network.  There is a server
which the students have configured, a switch, and a desktop PC for each
student.  I had the CAT cable ordered along with the ducting, but these were
delivered to the builders doing the government funded building (!). They
sent it to their warehouse and cannot trace it (!!).  When this is finally
resolved, we can finish building the network and they will do the software
and peripherals administration, etc. 

These students respond best to more practical activities, so getting in 60
hours of designing organisational documents using computing packages is
quite a challenge.  They enjoyed dismantling the dozens of ancient PCs which
cluttered the store rooms, and then used the hardware knowledge they
acquired to alter their own PCs - add more memory, add another disk drive,
etc.  They also get to install any new software which the school gets. 

One of the girls told me today that her Nanna bought a computer on the
weekend, and she put it all together for her and installed the software.
She was very proud  because her Nanna was so impressed.  This is a great
course to teach, but I would appreciate any tips and help from more
experienced VET IT teachers (I previously taught VCE units 1-4).

Thanks,

Quentin Lydall

Heywood & District Secondary College

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 11:21 AM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Hi Quentin,

what stream are you doing?

General, NetAdmin or Software?

I'm doing the NetAdmin stream.

Peter Nash, Kevork and a crew of others are also doing it.

Are you doing the scored assessment stuff or not? (my lot are).

KB.

Kent Beveridge

ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.

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From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
behalf of Lydall, Quentin C [lydall.quentin.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 9:40 AM
To: vet-it at edulists.com.au
Subject: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Hi, I've picked up a VET IT Cert 3 class, lovely kids and interesting course
but I'd like to share with other VET IT teachers.  Is this list still
active?

Quentin Lydall - Heywood & District Secondary College

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