[vet-it] Cert III in IT

Tue Dec 2 13:49:20 EST 2008

Hi Kevork,
I am not the teacher of the IT but I know we don't give any choices to
the students. The teachers have chosen these modules. We teach this
course in Year 10 and 11, so the Year 10 students are not so pressured
and seem to get through the modules quite well. 
Thanks for your comments
Chris

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[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:32 AM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [vet-it] Cert III in IT

Hi Chris,

 This looks good but a few comments if I may :

 1.  Do the students have the option of any of the 3 streams (
applications, network administration, support ) in the second year  ? It
seems only support is offered.
 2. The outstanding units of competence over and above the basic
requirements require a Cert III Core ( Care for Computer Hardware ) , a
Stream specific outstanding core ( Migrate to New Technology being the
Support Stream Core ) and 4 extra units. The ones selected are fairly
heavy eg. 60 hrs with Develop macros and templates ... , Customised
packaged software apps  etc. giving you a 440 hr course for Units 1and 2
vs the nominal VCE total of 200 hrs for a full year. These heavier units
are Unit 3 -4 types. How do you manage to fit this in ?
  We have picked much more lightweight units for the last 4 electives to
take the pressure off. 

 Best Wishes

Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
Mobile: 0419 356 034

>>> "Christina Gilcrist" <cgilcrist at salesianchad.vic.edu.au> 2/12/2008
10:08 am >>>
Dear Dan,
I am the VET Coordinator at Salesian College Chadstone and have attached
a list of the modules that we do under the auspices of Box Hill
Institute. These modules give the students the full Cert III over the
two years.
Chris Gilcrist

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[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Dan BUTLER
Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 9:43 AM
To: vet-it at edulists.com.au 
Subject: [vet-it] Cert III in IT

Hi all, Dan Butler from Cranbourne SC here with a question or two that
somebody may be able to help me with.

We are introducing VET IT next year and enrolling the students in Cert
III
IT.  We are going to squeeze the Cert III in over two years - is this
possible to do?

If so, to gain the Cert III what units do they need to complete?  The
VCAA
VET IT booklet talks about a course for partial completion but we want
the
students to do the full thing.

Do we enrol the kids in Cert III, do the 8 core units of the Cert II and
then do the 5 common core units of Cert III and then the chosen stream
units (we would do the applications stream)?

I've been given the job of designing the course and have been given
little
assistance other than time release.  I've found a few resources that
look
quite good but can't find much information on the admin/red tape side of
things.  Our RTO we are using is a bit hazy on the requirements as well.

Would greatly appreciate any advice.  Also, if there is anyone out there
who would be willing to allow me to visit for a chat, that would be
fantastic.

Thanks

Dan
-- 
Dan Butler

bl at cranbournesc.vic.edu.au 
Cranbourne Secondary College
Stawell St
Cranbourne  3977

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