[Year 12 SofDev] SD U3O1 KK07

Sun Apr 17 04:36:44 UTC 2022

Thanks, Andrew.

But what would an SD U3O1 KK07 question on the *exam* look like?
I can't imagine it.
And its application to a SAT is equally mysterious.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 13:55, Andrew Shortell <shortell at get2me.net> wrote:

> hi Sven
> I see this as key knowledge on HOW to use a programming language to do …
> etc
>
> Most students are only exposed to one language at school ….
> if you have good digi  tech in 7-9 then they will have met at least one
> other language
> THEN they can see that different programming languages will meet different
> needs better.
>
> NO single language can meet all needs ( though a compiler meets the
> programming language but is still limited by the hardware)
> NO single hardware can meet all needs
>
> So where does this go?
>
> think about all the other languages which you have used on different
> platforms with different IDEs and each one was used to meet specified needs
>
> LISP (now sadly out of fashion) was magnificent. I loved it and its
> recursive techniques.
> Fortran worked really well for math type things
> COBOL was useful in business applications. Its limits were shown up by the
> y2k issue where programs were written in the 60’s and 70’s and were still
> working ok in the 99’s
>
> As part of accepting that I am now unemployed (permanently which is
> effectively retired) I looked back on all of the languages I have learnt
> (about 25 approx). Many of them only met certain needs and were useless in
> other contexts. Most i have not used in a long time.
>
> so, TO ME, this is a given.
>
> The KK is to understand that ONE language can NOT do all things.
>
> So my SAC u3o1 and the SAT are structured around what the language I use
> in class can do .
>
> So I emphasise that the SAT (and u3o1) must demonstrate load, save, add,
> edit, delete, sort, search.
> Any client in a business will need ALL of those things.
>
> *(Also I did NOT write that KK in the Study Design but I do fully support
> it.)*
>
> A games writing team will use a seriously different language for its needs.
>
> Apologies for a very long winded reply
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Andrew Shortell
> (retired and given up on working in a classroom)
>
>
>
> On 16 Apr 2022, at 2:26 pm, 7 <7 at 7u7.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Adrian.
>
> So how can students prepare for a question based on *SD U3O1 KK07 - **A
> programming language as a method for developing working modules that meet
> specified needs*
>
> *Question A3: To what degree is a programming language a method for
> developing working modules that meet specified needs?*
> A. Not at all
> B. It's better than a compiler but worse than an algorithm.
> C. Really, quite a lot when you sit down and really think about it.
> D. It's more important than *God*.
> E. I don't understand the question and there is no "E" option in
> section A. Give me a mark anyway.
>
> Regards
>
> *7 aka Sven*
>
> Not at all mysterious.
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 13:19, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi "7",
>>
>> You've got to remember that the study design lays out the intentions and
>> content of the course. So this statement is really a fundamental one.
>> Software is developed to meet specified needs (says the teacher). Got it
>> (says their students).
>>
>> Life's a fillet of fish.... yes it is.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM 7 <7 at 7u7.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Surely *all* software is developed to meet specified needs.
>>> One does not code a module just in case someone needs it.
>>>
>>> So is the answer to SD U3O1 KK07 simply, "*Yes, it is*" ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 12:35, Janene Watt <
>>> Janene.Watt at education.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would think that this refers to thinks such as a module around
>>>> internationalisation so that you could customise solutions based on
>>>> Language, date and time.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, it could be a function that allows page content to be
>>>> read by a screen reader.
>>>>
>>>> I may not have this right though. Good question !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> *Janene*
>>>>
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>>>> SD U3O1 KK07 - *A programming language as a method for developing
>>>> working modules that meet specified needs*
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> What exactly is supposed to be taught here?
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>>>> This key knowledge does not make sense to me.
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