[Year 12 SofDev] [Informatics] Enrolment numbers

Mark mark at vceit.com
Fri May 24 12:40:18 UTC 2019 

Has anyone surveyed their VCE students about their reasons for selecting or
rejecting IT subjects?

That might give us a clue.

On Fri, 24 May 2019, 21:46 Andrew Shortell, <shortell at get2me.net> wrote:

> Hi All
> I rarely post nowadays
>
> I still think edulists works well - witness this discussion
>
> for sof dev — look at Strathmore - Selina Denis - one of the really really
> good teachers of sof dev and few if any females in her classes
>
> For other schools - it is ages since, as a teacher of sof dev I have had
> women (girls) in my classes
>
> in IDM I also struggled to attract girls to the subject
>
> I have had a lot of “skin in the game” - been marking the exam in Sof dev
> since   1991
> Yes that is 28 years —>  yes you can go Oh wow  but I am not the only one
> ( looking at you Claudia)
> This subject started in 1991
> I have also done IPM, IDM and maths marking
>
> Yes I have written text books (I am not the only one), practice exams (as
> have others), the real VCAA exam ( as have others)
> I have been involved in Algorithmics
>
> So why are we losing students —> is it just the fault of career advisors?
> or is it just the fault of Unis not asking for pre-requisites?
>
> have we lost relevance ?  yet Data Analytics is SO IMPORTANT
> e.g. the latest election polls — or other things
>
> so who are our pre-eminent sales people? why are they not succeeding?
>
> what to do?     ???
>
> I don’t offer my ideas because they have not been wonderfully successful -
> instead I ask those people with bigger classes to share where it has worked
>
> (Yes i love the idea of year 10 commerce - computing in disguise) ( and
> the year 9/10 event management subject - project management on a big scale)
>
> so PLEASE if you have bigger classes ———>   WHY ?????
>
> Andrew
> At Lalor SC this year
>
>
>
> On 24 May 2019, at 5:21 pm, Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I kind of agree with Kevork, we have 5 surviving and evolving choices ..
> If we hadn’t changed every now and then, we would certainly have been run
> over. I salute all the past labours to get to where we are now.
>
> My idle fingers just had a peek at QLD for year 11 for inspiration
>
> • Digital Solutions (2019)
> <https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/senior-subjects/technologies/digital-solutions>
> • Information & Communication Technology Skills (2019)
> <https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/senior-subjects/technologies/information-communication-technology-skills>
>
> and then year 12 ..  • ICT & Design
> <https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/subjects/ict-design> … and something
> interesting happened, check it out yourself. Any thoughts?
>
> I am going to the QSITE Conference in a couple of weeks to talk about my
> Robotics work. Peeking over the horizon .. hint hint
> <https://jason.zagami.info/theora-research/educational-technologies/australian-trends>
> --
>
> *Roland GESTHUIZEN*http://about.me/rgesthuizen
>
> On 23 May 2019, at 3:22 pm, Kevork Krozian <kkrozian at rt.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
>  In the first phase of the VCE ( 1990 ? ) which from memory coincided with
> the new Information Technology study, we had three streams:
>
>
>    1. Information Technology Systems ( before it became IT Software
>    Development )
>    2. Information  Technology Applications  ( I think, before it became
>    IPM, then Informatics ... )
>    3. Information Technology in Society ( which passed away fairly soon
>    after it was released with few takers )
>
>
>  But during this time we have also had:
>
>    1. VET ICT30115 Certificate III in Information, Digital Media and
>    Technology
>    2. VET Cisco Networking ( Routing, Switching, LANs, WANs, protocols,
>    security )
>    3. HESS Algorithmics ( see
>    https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/algorithmics/AlgorithmicsSD-2017.pdf
>     )
>
>
> I know that other vendors like Microsoft, 3Com, RedHat have tried over the
> years to introduce their industry courses into the VCE .
> What better way to get your product immersed into society than by getting
> children to use it in schools  ?
>
>  Overall, we have been blessed in the VCE space with 5 surviving and
> currently evolving choices.
>
> However, I do accept Informatics has become less and less relevant, a bit
> like the Office Applications that began life as IT but soon slipped into
> business studies or office administration courses over time.  Then again,
> it is possible to do very complex tasks with Word macros and Excel
> functions.
>
>
> Speak soon
>
> Kevork
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* informatics <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> on behalf of
> Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 May 2019 2:26:33 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 VCE
> Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers
>
> I cynically suspect that the Informatics course was trying to exploit
> students' interest in soft sciences like psych and sociology and
> communication-rich exercises (the MMOS) - maybe to lure oestrogen-enabled
> punters.
>
> Didn't work.
>
> Kids who wanted IT expected to get IT.
> Informatics gave them hypotheses, stats, and just enough IT to make these
> happen.
>
> Kids who want soft science and communications do psych/sociology/drama.
> Informatics gave them 2NF, The Privacy Act 1988 and user flow diagrams.
>
> Informatics didn't really deliver anything much to anyone.
> As I've said before, I believe IPM/ITA/Informatics is still riding through
> the desert on a horse with no name looking for an identity.
>
> Just my 2.2 cents. Spend it wisely.
>
> 😲
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 12:11, Lisa Kerekes <
> Lisa.Kerekes at donvale.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> The numbers seem to reflect young people’s desire to learn about
> themselves and the world, to help others, and make a difference.
>
> Q: How can Computing show its relevance (and perhaps applications for tech
> to solve problems) in these areas?
>
> Just what went through my mind.
>
> Lisa K
>
>
> > On 23 May 2019, at 10:11 am, Rattan, Kushum L <
> rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >
> > Another growing subject at my school is Sociology where they look at all
> the current issues facing societies such as refugees, terrorism, migration,
> ageing etc and the kids love it.
> >
> > Kushum Rattan
> > ICT Curriculum Area Leader
> > VET Co-ordinator
> > Gisborne Secondary College
> > Phone: 03 54283691
> > rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Stephen
> Trouse
> > Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2019 8:03 AM
> > To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> > Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers
> >
> > As I suspected.  Psych numbers burgeoning!  The future is therapy!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of
> sofdev-request at edulists.com.au
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> >   1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Mark)
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> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:20:10 +1000
> > From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> > To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
> > <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
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> >
> > *2001*
> > *Psych U1*
> > Male 2,922
> > Female 10,179
> > Total 13,101
> >
> > *Psych U3*
> > M 2,852
> > F 10,068
> > Total 12,920
> >
> > ---------------------------
> > *2018*
> > *Psych U1*
> > M 5,119
> > F 12,605
> > Total 17,739 (includes 15 intersex students)
> >
> > *Psych U3*
> > M 4,479
> > F 11,435
> > Total 15,927 (includes 13 intersex students)
> >
> > *Boys are picking up psych!*
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 15:14, Stephen Trouse <
> Stephen.Trouse at flinders.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd like to see the numbers for Psychology as a comparison.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> sofdev-request at edulists.com.au
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> >>   1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Litsa Tzelepis)
> >>
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:44:10 +1000
> >> From: Litsa Tzelepis <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> >> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
> >>        <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> >> Message-ID:
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> >>
> >> no no - mark collated the data and chart while I was shuffling papers
> >> - he's the genius -
> >> 😃
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jolly, Michael D <
> >> Jolly.Michael.D at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow!
> >>>
> >>> Oh yeah, and “good job”!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike Jolly from Kyneton
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Litsa
> >>> Tzelepis
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 1:45 PM
> >>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
> >>> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> so.... for the last hour I have been clicking around with a notepad
> >>> and 2B pencil - lol
> >>>
> >>> thanks mark - litsa
> >>>
> >>> 📝
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:31 PM Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> IT enrolments - the complete sad tale from 2001 to 2018
> >>>
> >>> [image: computing enrolments 2001-2018.jpg]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You can get the full XLSX in the attachment. Let me know if you have
> >>> issues with it - I created in in LibreOffice.
> >>>
> >>> (And yes, it includes male and female breakdowns.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy - and try not to weep.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 12:37, Litsa Tzelepis
> >>> <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Excellent everyone - I really appreciate your help?
> >>>
> >>> Litsa 🌻
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:07 PM Scott Wallace <
> >>> Scott.Wallace at beaconhills.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Any chance of getting the breakdown between male and female enrolments?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Scott Wallace *
> >>>
> >>> *Head of House (Rich) *
> >>>
> >>> *Head of Campus eLearning and Information Technology*
> >>>
> >>> *Beaconhills College, Pakenham*
> >>>
> >>> *(03) 5945-3014*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *[image: email_Sig]*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Mark
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:06 PM
> >>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
> >>> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> hehehe. I followed Geoff's link and was amused to find the
> >>> enrolments in
> >>> *2001*:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> IT 1 - *17,113*
> >>>
> >>> Information Processing and Management U3 - *13,344*
> >>>
> >>> Information Systems U3 (SD) - *3,346*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And in *2015*...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> IT1 - *4,959*
> >>>
> >>> IT Apps - *2,651*
> >>>
> >>> SD - *1,385*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How times change
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:48, Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Earlier I found 2016 and 2017.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [image: computing 2016-2017.jpg]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just found 2018 here
> >>> <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw
> >>> ww
> >>> .vcaa.vic.edu.au%2FPages%2Fvce%2Fstatistics%2F2018%2Fstatssect2.aspx
> >>> &d
> >>> ata=02%7C01%7Cjolly.michael.d%40edumail.vic.gov.au%7Cf9db6aec60f44d4
> >>> 74
> >>> ab008d6de6803f8%7Cd96cb3371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C6369409
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> >>> ved=0>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [image: computing 2016-2018.jpg]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Informatics died a long, horrible - yet predictable - death.
> >>>
> >>> 💀
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 10:28, Litsa Tzelepis
> >>> <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Good morning,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> is there anywhere that I can access the enrollment numbers for
> >>> Computing
> >>> (11 & 12) over the last few years?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We are heading into subject selection confirmation lists over the
> >>> next few days.
> >>>
> >>> I'd appreciate any direction - not to worry if it doesn't exist -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Have a great day,
> >>>
> >>> Litsa 🌼
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Litsa Tzelepis
> >>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College
> >>> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona, VIC. 3018 htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au
> >>>
> >>> P:8398 2000
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark Kelly
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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