[Year 12 SofDev] Python SAT Ideas
Tony Richardson
T.Richardson at kardinia.vic.edu.au
Wed Nov 7 22:52:27 UTC 2018
Good morning
We do a similar thing here with PHP in Unit 2 and SD. Students have XAMPP installed on their computers which they use as a development environment for their PHP applications..
Completed applications are then uploaded by FTP to the “production” web server environment which is a Linux box in my office running Mint OS. This server is internal to our network so quite secure.
I just had a look at Brackets. With the Emmet plugin installed it’s a great option for HTML/CSS also. We will be using that in future. Thanks for the tip Gary.
Tony Richardson
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From: sofdev [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Gary Bass
Sent: Friday, 2 November 2018 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Python SAT Ideas
Greetings
In a similar vein..
We use PHP because of the range of tools to assist.
Fortunately our techs have setup an XAMP ‘virtual’ server which is isolated from the network.
Permissions need to be changed for school computers to allow admin rights for that application.
We insist that the project be ‘self contained’ so no connections are necessary when running.
Students download and install XAMP, a virtual image can be installed on macOS so no preference settings are changed..
SQL is included with the install, and works ‘out of the box’…
We use www.brackets.io<http://www.brackets.io> for the editing and formatting/commenting
For small groups Python may be manageable ..but at VCE, it appears to be ‘a heroic endeavour’
We had considered SWIFT, but like Python is heroic and under developed as a school thing. Great for hobbyists and professionals, but the hours involved are significantly beyond what can be expected for a VCE study…
We run PHP at Year 11 as well, with few problems after the install stage
Gary
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From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>> On Behalf Of Victoria Farrell
Sent: Friday, 2 November 2018 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Python SAT Ideas
Visual Studio is great for fast GUI development which is why I have never used Python for VCE. Ideally I'd like to make a web interface but server side programming requires a web server (AMP) which our administrators will not allow on the network. I'm setting up an e-commerce site teaching HTML, CSS, PHP and MySQL - but the students need to run it on their own personal machines.
It's a real problem with Python. When they develop an easy to use GUI builder I'll use it... in the meantime VB and C++ works fine.
Let me know how you go with Python.
:)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 11:59 AM ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au<mailto:Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au>> wrote:
Hi folks,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I am in the process of transitioning from VB.NET<http://VB.NET> this year to Python for next year. Whilst I am quite enjoying the challenge, I am constantly trying to think of things that are worth doing for student SATs. Obviously not to say this is what you must do, but more to give them some ideas and to guide them into what is/isn’t achievable.
Am wondering if anyone out there who had students use Python this year would be willing to share some ideas and issues they encountered.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Damien
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