[Year 12 SofDev] sofdev PSM Analysis
David Dawson
David.Dawson at wesleycollege.net
Tue Mar 21 12:50:29 AEDT 2017
Hi Mark et al
Yes - that was a bit bizarre, hilarious even ...
I preferred Planning, Analysis, Design, Development, Implementation and Evaluation, Maintenance.
PADDIM ?
and a cycle - not a waterfall
but only because that was what was in my Uni Systems Analysis text.
The world was a simpler place back then and you would analyse the user needs for the software you were developing - and possibly make diags for BOTH systems. lol
I also used to hate Macs and love XP - how things change!
cheers
David
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Mark [mark at vceit.com]
Sent: 21 March 2017 12:20
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] sofdev PSM Analysis
Hi David
The old SDLC* was a nightmare. Different lifecycle models were used in SD, IPM** and year 11.
I assume you remember these:
- ADDTDIE (Analysis, Design, Development, Testing, Documentation, Implementation, Evaluation)
- ADDTIE
- ADDIE
In some models, some steps (e.g. documentation) were either subsumed in other steps or - like implementation - ignored completely. (I still have a preference for the ADDTDIE model because it singled out important stages that are now sidelined.)
It was very stressful walking between VCE IT classes and having to shift mental gears to get the SDLC steps right for each class. I complained about this confusing set of models at the time, and was relieved when the PSM with its ADDE steps arrived.
But I still miss poor old Implementation - the runt of the litter. I quite enjoyed pilot, phased, direct and parallel.
But - according to VCAA's model - modern software and solutions are developed and then never documented or rolled out to end-users. Which is kind of odd. I would argue that both documentation and implementation are far more significant than evaluation.
Mark
For the benefit of young whippersnappers -
* SDLC = System Development Life Cycle.
** IPM (Information Processing and Management) was the grandfather of Informatics, and father of ITA (IT Applications).
On 21 March 2017 at 09:31, David Dawson <David.Dawson at wesleycollege.net<mailto:David.Dawson at wesleycollege.net>> wrote:
I agree with Mark … and assume that the PSM is not a reflection of the SDLC. I actually thought (previously) this was a good aspect of this course – to use something that was more or less standard terminology across the industry. All references to the PSM seems to be related to the VCE IT course. Not sure why it was boiled down.
Now I am not sure where I could ANALYSE the requirements of the NEW system. I could go on and on with links about this but there is no point really, if examiners say that analysis is ONLY about the old system – so be it! If the VCAA says cats speak French – well that’s what I will teach!
What advice would you give to a game developer re-analysis?
From computerworld.com<http://computerworld.com>
Systems analysis, requirements definition: Refines project goals into defined functions and operation of the intended application. Analyzes end-user information needs.
From systemanalysisanddesign.blogspot.com.au<http://systemanalysisanddesign.blogspot.com.au>
Analysis of the requirement: The analyst understands the nature of the information and the functions of the software which is required for the system. The analyst makes a brief survey of the requirements and tries to analyze the performance of the system which is to be developed. He also makes sure that he gets enough information and resources for building the appropriate system.
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Mark
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Actually. I was saying the opposite: VCE IT should follow the natural processes of the real world.
Real SRS documents do not describe current/old systems, so a VCE SRS should not do it either.
Also, people are still assuming that analysis must be of an existing system. Why?
Please - anyone - provide any evidence that 'analysis' must be of an existing system.
I maintain that SRS analysis involves the study of the requirements of the system to be developed.
(Are people thinking of system analysis as they would forensic analysis of hairs under a microscope?)
'Analysis' refers to the separation of an item into its constituent parts for study.
This is done for a proposed system when the entire problem is broken down into its parts, and its requirements are thereby identified.
Also, where is any evidence for the other side of the argument?
I have provided several examples from exams and the real world that indicate that SRS diagrams illustrate the new system.
Where is the contrary evidence?
Most of what I am hearing is just assertions and assumptions.
Anyway, my piggy bank is empty : I have no more cents to spend on this topic.
Mark
On 20 March 2017 at 19:24, Andrew Pate <arp at mentonegrammar.net<mailto:arp at mentonegrammar.net>> wrote:
Hi all
Seeing as we are throwing money 💰- here goes.
Mark is correct about the real world being different from VCE however I feel the intention of the study design is clear. The SRS is the culmination of the analysis work. It is completed before the design work begins. Seeing as I have not begun any design of the new system yet, the SRS must therefore contain documentation of the existing system.
Many of the tools could be used as analysis and design tools.
Andrew Pate
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