[Year 12 SofDev] Student query

Fri Feb 17 10:35:20 AEDT 2017

Hi All,

Geoff hit the nail on the head.  His response is pretty well a prefect explanation.

Sorry Robert, mostly correct but there is no specific approved languages now (that the old study design) only needed features/requirements.  The programming requirements<https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj6mtq145XSAhVEqJQKHTQWBVYQFgg0MAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vcaa.vic.edu.au%2FDocuments%2Fvce%2Fcomputing%2FSofDevProgrammingRequirements.docx&usg=AFQjCNFb6Zo67KQ2aBndSRtJ5oT2iZNeSA&sig2=KfednmKeIJn23bXqEAMtYA&bvm=bv.147134024,bs.1,d.dGc> now allows for multiple different languages (and technologies) to be used to complete their solution.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2017 10:09 AM
To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Student query

I have never taught Software Development. However I would think that using different languages in a SAC would be fine, so long as they were approved languages.

Sure the same task under the same conditions but using any one of the approved languages.

Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Darren Scott
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2017 9:41 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Student query
I've got the same understanding as Geoff. SACs must be under the exact same conditions for all students in the cohort to enforce fairness and equity (aside from the special conditions that your VCE coordinator applies for, like rest breaks, printing on a different colour page, etc.).

For the SAT there's more room of choice, a bit like the design & tech kids who can choose to work in metal, plastic and/or wood.

Also pointing out dot point 3 in the SAT authentication procedures:

3. Undue assistance should not occur at any time during the development of the body of work, and
teachers need to be vigilant. Students are required to demonstrate development of their thinking
and working practices. Teachers are reminded that it is not appropriate to provide 'detailed advice
on, corrections to, or actual reworking of students' work'.

If you feel like you can't authenticate a C++ program you can say no, but if your concern is that you won't be able to help with every little piece of code, well you're not actually allowed to do that anyway.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Matheson, Geoff J
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Student query

Fatima,

At the risk of getting in before the people with titles to back them up - I'm pretty sure this is the go:

Approving a students' proposal for the SAT is at the teachers' discretion, and as such probably comes down to whether you are confident you can understand the C++ code well enough to assess his work, and whether his skills in the language are going to be sufficient to meet the criteria without the support & resources that would come with doing the same as the rest of the class.

But while there's nothing stopping a student using a different language on the SAT, I'm pretty sure the student should be doing the SAC work in the same language. But I'm less confident of that one.

Geoff Matheson
Teaching and Learning Coach - Digital Learning
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From: <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>> on behalf of Fatima Nazar <fnazar at salesian.vic.edu.au<mailto:fnazar at salesian.vic.edu.au>>
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Date: Friday, 17 February 2017 at 8:44 am
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev at edulists.com.au>>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Student query

Good morning and happy Friday to all!
I have a student in my SD class who wants to do all his SAC/SAT work in C++. Our school however is using Visual Basic.  Is it okay for him to use C++?

Regards

Carpe Diem :)

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