[Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy andcorrectness

Mark mark at vceit.com
Sat Sep 3 18:33:34 AEST 2016


Maybe we should ask VCAA what the study design means by "accuracy" and
"correctness".

After all, VCAA started this fight, and VCAA must know the meaning of the
terms it is examining.


Mark

On 1 September 2016 at 22:02, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:

>
> PS - It is woth noting that most writing on data integrity refers to
> "accuracy and consistency" and does not mention "correctness"
>
> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> Retired
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Hind [mailto:robert at yinnar.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 9:54 PM
> To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
> andcorrectness
>
> Hi all, my 2c worth again - from the perspective of working with data and
> on
> database design since the early 90s.
>
> We are talking here about data integrity.
>
> We are not talking about the accuracy or precision of measurements in terms
> number of significant figures or decimal places.
> We are not talking about data formats, eg dd/mm/yyyy versus mm/dd/yyyy or
> yyyy/mm/dd
>
> Andrew's example of stating his height as 1.564334m IS a measurement
> "accurate" to 6 decimal places but it is not accurate/correct as a
> statement
> of his height.
>
> I still consider correctness and accuracy as being synonymous terms when
> talking about data integrity.
>
> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> Retired
>
>
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@
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> On Behalf Of Andrew Pate
> Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 9:10 PM
> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
> andcorrectness
>
> Hi all,
> I have spoken about accuracy in terms of precision.
>
> I could say I am about 1.8 metres tall. That is correct, but not accurate.
> I could say I am 1.564334 metres tall. That is accurate, but not correct.
> Each situation will require a different level of accuracy that is
> acceptable
> or expected.
> Can't think of a situation where accuracy is important but correctness not.
>
> Andrew Pate
> VCE Computing teacher
> Mentone Grammar
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> From: "Rattan, Kushum L" <rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity:   different       between
>         accuracy        andcorrectness?
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> andcorrectness?
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> And I teach them that dates recorded in this format in a file-naming
> convention is both correct and accurate as the files self-sort by date.
> YYYYMMDD
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
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> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Travis Parker
> Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 3:31 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
> andcorrectness?
>
> Sorry I did mean the opposite! Big week.
>
> Try again??.
> I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY format in a
> program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is accurate, writing 01/09/2016
> is correct.
>
>
>
> Travis Parker
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
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> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 2:40 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
> andcorrectness?
>
> I'd say the opposite.
>
> I don't think this question is ever going to be answered until we have a
> plebiscite, a Royal Commission or at least a dance-off competition.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> On 1 September 2016 at 14:17, Travis Parker
> <Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au<mailto:Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au>>
> wrote:
> I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY format in a
> program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is technically correct, writing
> 01/09/2016 is accurate.
>
> Mistake???
>
>
>
> Travis Parker
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> The Knox School
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
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> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-
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> >] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
> Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 1:32 PM
> To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
> andcorrectness?
>
> I have read Mark's views on this
> http://vceit.com/wp/correctness-versus-accuracy/
>
> Don't think they helped :-)
>
>
> I think they are essentially synonymous:
> eg my phone number is 0477999111 is both accurate and correct.
>
> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
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> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
> Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:54 PM
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> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
> andcorrectness?
> Hi all,
>
> As part of the five characteristics of data integrity we have both accuracy
> and correctness; how do we differentiate the two of these?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ben Hines
>
> Ben Hines
> Mathematics and ICT Teacher
> Senior Campus
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