[Year 12 SofDev] Review of the year and the new study design

Thu Nov 17 14:43:26 AEDT 2016

Let's also not forget that the students can identify an opportunity rather than just a need or solution to someone else's problem....

I got my 2017 group thinking about it today :)

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 14:21:34 +1100
From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
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Hi Daryl. I don't mean to be semantically pedantic, but there is a big difference between a "kiss-arse app" and a "kick-arse app".

I wonder which you meant to say.

:-)

Regards,
Mark

On 17 November 2016 at 14:14, Croke, Daryl D < croke.daryl.d at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> Hi Chris
>
> The issue of students approached people cold for a the SAT is real
> concern. What I did this year was help facilitate this a bit by
> sending a email out all senior teachers at my school. The teachers
> came up with App ideas and I then got students (first in first dressed
> basis) to chose from the app idea list.
>
> That overcame the issue of approaching clients, they could talk to
> people they knew. The problem was getting them to develop an ongoing
> relationship with clients and properly deconstructing the problem and
> therefore developing a kiss-arse app.
>
>
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> Cheers
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> [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Chris MCDONALD
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> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 November 2016 1:26 PM
> *To:* 'sofdev at edulists.com.au'
> *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] Review of the year and the new study
> design
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> Just sitting down to have a serious look at the year and improve my course.
>
> A sort out  and rewrite of things that did not go as well as I thought.
>
> Keep the good stuff and rewrite the rest.
>
> Thanks to the active members on the list. You have made my life easy
> or rather easier.
>
>
>
> My major concern is the nature of the SAT with a large class of students.
>
> This will be the main food for thought before we start next year.
>
>
>
> Basically : The quality of the problem and the client determines the
> overall performance on the SAT.
>
> Students who are able to generate good problems based on approachable
> clients have an extreme advantage over students who lack the
> confidence or initial knowledge to find a client.
>
> The less able student will often generate an unworkable problem or
> simplify make up a client ( as I found out too late to do much about
> it)
>
> From this starting point the student is prevented from scoring highly
> on most of the 8 criteria.
>
> So on reflection I will be looking at
>
>
>
> 1.       Develop the awareness of what is required in the SAT before the
> new school year. Step up next week
>
> 2.       Develop clear expectations as to what is required in a quality
> problem (Searching Sorting etc.)
>
> 3.       Development of practice scenarios in the creation of a suitable
> SAT topic.
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> 4.       Refusing students to progress further with unsuitable topics.
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