[Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 135, Issue 12

Wed Jun 8 20:46:25 AEST 2016

Hi,

I have been trying to understand how to determine if the student will receive an "S" or an "N" for the SAT. 

I was able to find these two points on the VCAA Assessment Handbook. Student "submits the work" ( I guess for each of the criteria) & Student " produces work that demonstrates achievement of the outcomes"

Do we say that student is awarded a "Satisfactory" if 
a) they get 40% overall? Or 
b) they get more than 4 out of 10 for each criteria Or
c) should submit evidence for each key area for each criteria - 
    example in case of design should have evaluation criteria, 3 design ideas and a detailed design.
                   in case of analysis tool, should have submitted UCD, DFD & CD  

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Ms. Nayak,
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Sunbury College, 30, Race Course Road,
Sunbury - 3429.

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   3. Re: Limited SAT Scope and criteria (Paragreen, Chris J)

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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 05:13:14 +0000
From: "Ciappara, Anthony A" <ciappara.anthony.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
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Hi everybody
Just wondering how people handled marking criteria 1-3 when the size of SAT project scopes differed.
How does a limited SAT scope affect student results for criteria 1-3?
If a student has a simple SAT project with limited functions are they able to score maximum marks for criteria 1-3. What if they get everything right, it?s all perfect, but the project is just limited in size?
Eg. A student has a simple project. It validates data, does a simple calculation or two, saves data and allow the user to retrieve data. That?s it. They address all criteria perfectly, based on this simple project. All their diagrams, SRS and design work is perfect but quite basic because of their limited scope. Where do their results stand compared to a student who has a more difficult project and makes a couple errors? The student with the more difficult project has a lot more correct, good quality work than the student with the simple project.
I?ve read as much documentation as I can find but cannot see this scenario mentioned.
Thanks in advance
Anthony Ciappara

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I am not teaching at present BUT on reading through criteria 1 to 3 it seems
to me that the size of the project only comes into criterion 2 where for a
top mark the student
"

Acquires multiple complex data

sets of different types of data,

qualities and structures from both

primary and secondary data

sources. Uses appropriate

methods to acquire data from

both types of sources."

but the quantity of data is not specified.

Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired

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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria

Hi everybody

Just wondering how people handled marking criteria 1-3 when the size of SAT
project scopes differed.

How does a limited SAT scope affect student results for criteria 1-3?

If a student has a simple SAT project with limited functions are they able
to score maximum marks for criteria 1-3. What if they get everything right,
it's all perfect, but the project is just limited in size?

Eg. A student has a simple project. It validates data, does a simple
calculation or two, saves data and allow the user to retrieve data. That's
it. They address all criteria perfectly, based on this simple project. All
their diagrams, SRS and design work is perfect but quite basic because of
their limited scope. Where do their results stand compared to a student who
has a more difficult project and makes a couple errors? The student with the
more difficult project has a lot more correct, good quality work than the
student with the simple project.

I've read as much documentation as I can find but cannot see this scenario
mentioned.

Thanks in advance

Anthony Ciappara

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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 06:05:20 +0000
From: "Paragreen, Chris J" <paragreen.chris.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>
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Hi Anthony,

In helping my students set up their projects, I've tried to encourage them to have enough scope to be able to reach the maximum available marks. Some students have not shown includes or extends in their UCDs, so this has limited their marks in that area. One student's project was so basic that there was no practical way for him to show substantial differences between his designs, so he was penalised in that regard.

Perhaps answering your question more directly, I've tried to award marks to my students wherever they have demonstrated relevant skills and understanding, however so slight. While I haven't finished assessing all of my students yet, so far the students who put more detail in were technically more proficient anyway. I suspect the larger the scope of the project, the more students will have access to marks in U4O1 to achieve the desired spread.

Chris Paragreen
Kew High School

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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria

Hi everybody
Just wondering how people handled marking criteria 1-3 when the size of SAT project scopes differed.
How does a limited SAT scope affect student results for criteria 1-3?
If a student has a simple SAT project with limited functions are they able to score maximum marks for criteria 1-3. What if they get everything right, it's all perfect, but the project is just limited in size?
Eg. A student has a simple project. It validates data, does a simple calculation or two, saves data and allow the user to retrieve data. That's it. They address all criteria perfectly, based on this simple project. All their diagrams, SRS and design work is perfect but quite basic because of their limited scope. Where do their results stand compared to a student who has a more difficult project and makes a couple errors? The student with the more difficult project has a lot more correct, good quality work than the student with the simple project.
I've read as much documentation as I can find but cannot see this scenario mentioned.
Thanks in advance
Anthony Ciappara

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