[Year 12 SofDev] Records VS Classes

Chris Bucknell Chris.Bucknell at haileybury.vic.edu.au
Fri Feb 26 12:15:13 AEDT 2016


Hi Ben,

That is the way that I read it also.  I think the context of the dot point containing the identification of records and its elaboration in brackets – varying data types, field index – means that it must be a user defined data structure (i.e structs – C, structures – VB or records – pascal)

So to expand (with thanks to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_(computer_science) )

·        A record is a collection of fields/elements, possibly of different data types, typically in fixed number and sequence.

·        Records are distinguished from arrays by the fact that their number of fields is typically fixed, each field has a name, and that each field may have a different type.

Just my two cents worth.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Baas, Benjamin B
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The study design mentions records under the dot point referring to data structures. To me that sounds like they want to us to look at records with in the programming language. In the case of the C languages and VB struts or structures. That’s my interpretation. I might ask Paula.


·        types of data structures, including one-dimensional arrays (single data type, integer index) and records (varying data types, field index)

Cheers,

Ben.

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Paragreen, Chris J
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My interpretation is that we need to teach records as in files and records, as opposed to the language specific data structure. How you then implement the record is up to … you? … the students? I’m also thinking that might tie into XML and the importing and exporting of data. Please tell me if my interpretation is wrong!

Chris

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Always a good idea to teach what is in the study design even if current practice is moving past it.

Laurie Savage
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On 25 February 2016 at 13:15, Baas, Benjamin B <baas.benjamin.b at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:baas.benjamin.b at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Hi all,

I just wanted to get people’s opinions, as part of the study design we have to teach our students  about record data structures. If we have to use an OO language would it not be best to just teach them how to make classes.

I haven’t done structs in C# before, only C, and to me it feels like I should just teach me students how to make basic classes and not worry about teaching sturcts. I will teach them structs as that’s what the study design says.

Cheers,

Ben.

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