[Year 12 SofDev] Arrays with mixed data types

Wed Jun 17 13:58:31 AEST 2015

Hi Kevork

I remember our having a long and detailed discussion of this issue way back!

Laurie Savage
ICT Teacher/Student Assessment and Reporting, Pascoe Vale Girls College
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Kevork Krozian [kevork at edulists.com.au]
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Hi Folks

This issue takes me back to the 2012 MC16 exam question :

Question 16
The name, date of birth, membership number, address, suburb, postcode and phone number of one person is to be stored in memory.
Which one of the following would be the best data structure?
A. record
B. random file
C. sequential file
D. one-dimensional array

The concession that an associative array could just as easily store this information as a record made this question inexact.
To quote just PHP as an example of a language that uses associative arrays overlooks the fact the list of 39 programming languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_programming_languages_(mapping)#Language_support clearly shows most have support for an associative array, in one form or another.
An associative array is still an array.

“Associative arrays can be implemented in any programming language as a package and many language systems provide them as part of their standard library. In some languages, they are not only built into the standard system, but have special syntax, often using array-like subscripting. “  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array

Also Robert I distinctly remember Pascal requiring an enumerated type for the index of an array – even a user declared one, but only after this was declared when not inbuilt such as integer, string etc.
Excuse syntax as it’s been 20 years since I wrote a Pascal program but roughly the idea was.
Eg.  month = enum{ jan, feb, mar, apr, …… nov, dec} ;
          Rainfall    = Array [month];

Kind Regards

Kevork Krozian
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of timmer at westnet.com.au
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2015 5:57 PM
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Hello again Mark

As an after though to my last post, I don't know if it's useful for what you are doing but the new SoftDev study design makes a distinction between the two types of 'array': U3 OC1 'data and information' dot point 2 - good ol' fashioned proper array; U4 OC1 'data and information' dot point 2 associative arrays.

Regards

Robert T-A

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I'm not familiar with the inner workings of PHP, but my research suggests their 'arrays' are not exactly the same nature as most other languages.

It's sort of like when TV guides categorise 'Big Brother' as 'entertainment' ... a non-classical use of the term.

I ask because I'm writing an exam with a question about whether a 2D array with mixed data types is possible (or wise).

Cheers
Mark

On 12 June 2015 at 14:09, Laurie Savage <08327998 at pvgc.vic.edu.au<mailto:08327998 at pvgc.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
If it quacks like an array ...? Could you elaborate on why Python lists ain't arrayz?
Laurie

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On 12 June 2015 at 13:27, Mark <mark at vceit.com<mailto:mark at vceit.com>> wrote:
Hi, codemakers.

Most languages require all elements of an array to have a single data type, but I have a nagging suspicion that there is an exception or two.

e.g. Apparently PHP allows mixed data types in its 'arrays' but I believe PHP 'arrays' are actually more like the lists found in Perl or Python and so are not classical arrays.

Is there a language that allows true arrays with mixed data types?

Cheers
Mark

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