[Year 12 SofDev] python UI

Wed Aug 5 13:42:22 AEST 2015

Will lolcode work for you?

http://lolcode.org/

Ben
-Alkira.

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, 5 August 2015 1:13 PM
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hehehehe.

Actually, I'd be keen to learn a language if it were called 'Dramatically Rhetorical Chipmunk'.

Or 'Startled Handsome Wombat' - as long as it was event-driven and OOP.

On 5 August 2015 at 13:02, Victoria Farrell <FarrellV at humegrammar.vic.edu.au<mailto:FarrellV at humegrammar.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Mark
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Hi Victoria.

I suspect your question is dramatically rhetorical, but for the sake of those who don't know...

For this year, VCAA neatly lists the approved languages<http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/correspondence/bulletins/2010/June/vce_study.aspx#4>:

  *   Basic (object-oriented variations only, e.g. VB.NET<http://VB.NET>) - including VB6 still !
  *   C++
  *   C#
  *   Objective-C
  *   Pascal (object-oriented variations only, e.g. Delphi)
  *   Java
  *   Perl
  *   PHP
  *   Python
  *   Ruby
Sadly, neither Scratch nor QuickBASIC 4.5 qualifies  ;-)

But henceforth, for the new study design (2016-2019) there is no longer an approved list of programming languages. There will, however, be a list of functions of which a chosen language must be capable.

Mark

On 5 August 2015 at 11:48, Victoria Farrell <FarrellV at humegrammar.vic.edu.au<mailto:FarrellV at humegrammar.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
In SD, students need to create working solutions where the interface is required to be user friendly…. So what language are we supposed to use?????

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Laurie Savage
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That's what I like about it! I'm not sure a GUI approach to language learning is always the right way in at this level; although I like the Scratch approach to problem solving eventually the students have to dive into syntax. I'm very fond of Python, just not very expert at it - there's always something else to do at work!
Laurie

Laurie Savage
https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home

On 5 August 2015 at 09:13, Guy Flaherty <Guy.Flaherty at xavier.vic.edu.au<mailto:Guy.Flaherty at xavier.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
There are a bunch of Python Web Frameworks Laurie. Probably the biggest of them is Django (http://djangoproject.com/). I am not teaching SD again this year but if I were I would look at using something like this and JQueryMobile (http://jquerymobile.com/) and get the students building mobile apps for their phones.

Python is not really a GUI focussed language. You can do it, but other languages are probably going to be easier to teach and use. Don’t get me wrong, I love Python. Been using it for 15 years now, but not for GUI programming.

Good luck,

Guy Flaherty
Xavier College

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I haven't cracked using Python as a web tool yet so I'm interested in how people go about this. Is there anything like Ruby on Rails? (maybe Python on a Swing?)
Laurie

Laurie Savage
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On 4 August 2015 at 22:41, Andrew Pate <arp at mentonegrammar.net<mailto:arp at mentonegrammar.net>> wrote:
Hi all
Just wondering through what mechanism those of you using python as your language are having students build UI? Is it web or otherwise platform independent?
I have been using PHP for a few years now, and probably will continue, but I have a number of students in 9-11 taking the Grok NCSS challenge and thought about looking into python as my language. Also, the Algorithmics course mandates python, and I would like to offer that, although I know that UI is not so important there.

Thanks
Andrew.

Andrew Pate
Mentone Grammar

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