[Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)

Thu May 24 09:07:49 EST 2012

Hi folks,
            I'm very keen to have a go at this as well. In terms of all catching up to nut out ideas, is there an opportunity to do it as a session at the vitta conference? Or even at the conclusion of one of the days, we hijack a room there (not sure if there's an AGM or anything similar though)?
Cheers
Damien

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KLA Head - MYP Technology & SYP Info Tech
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From: Adrian Janson [mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 3:07 PM
To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)

Hi Andrew, Kent and others,

Travis and I spoke about this - this morning (that is - wanting to form a group that could build up a course and share materials, etc).  I think it's an excellent idea!  I am happy to keep track of this - if others are agreeable?  Perhaps we could set up a collaborative space somewhere on the Internet - do such spaces exist yet?  (lol - sarcastic voice for that last bit!)

Cheers,
Adrian

Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed
eLearning Coordinator
Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141 Australia.
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Andrew Shortell
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)

me too
Maybe we could organise a group collaboration on creating a course and then all run it in our schools, feedback to each other and create apps we could all use!!

I would be happy to organise the collaboration if necessary - this woudl be an exciting project "going forward"

Andrew

Andrew Shortell
CRC Melton

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On 23/05/2012, at 2:12 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:

Me too! 100% iPAD school here too now...plus PC's...
Count me in!
Kent

Sent from KB's iPAD.

On 23/05/2012, at 12:18 PM, "Travis Parker" <Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au<mailto:Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au>> wrote:

Kevork,

The thing with Adrian (And myself) is that our schools have invested a
large amount of time and money into iPad programs and I checked out
appinventor and it seems that they only export to android devices?

There seems to be a text on "App inventing for iPhones" by Graeme
Summers that I am ordering (Thanks Adrian) and a few of us are trying to
organise a new year 10 iOS app development course. If anyone is
interested please speak up!

Cheers

Trav

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Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)

Hi Adrian,

 This is all very useful to all of our colleagues.

I recently completed an Android app writing PD at Swinburne Uni Hawthorn
using appinventor ( see appinventor.org<http://appinventor.org> ) and found it very powerful and
effortless in transferring to a phone or sharing with other phones. For
those who don't have a phone an emulator will still allow testing of the
app on Mac or PC. The resources (software, textbooks, completed apps )
are free online. The programming environment is a "scratch" type with no
actual coding but a GUI to connect objects, add methods, change
properties and parameters. This would translate to a Yr 8 to 10 course
so much more easily than say writing code in XNA or in Objective C I
feel.

There are sections on using multi dimensional arrays, saving to a
database and much more. Is it starting to look like it could slot into
Software Development as a language ? Of course the coding would have to
be done in Java for it to be acceptable. There are efforts to provide a
java view of the Appinventor GUI see http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap
but that would need to be clarified for Units 3 and 4 Software
Development purposes.

  An equally useful discussion would be to compare the competing app
writing and programming options. eg. Cost of registering as a devloper ?
How much will students understand when writing code in a language like
Objective C or C# for that matter ?

  One of the most useful apps in this series I worked on was "Find my
car" which allows recording of the current location using the GPS
feature in the phone and then after moving to another location
requesting a map showing how to find the car again. This interfaced with
a voice feature where instructions are announced on how to find your way
back to the car or if they are in the same spot, the family members you
may have lost ......

  All very exciting ...

Keep well

Kevork

Hi Travis,

Apologies for the previous email - I have just transitioned to a new
notebook and I had not set up my email signature yet!

I also hope I didn't get your hopes up! - basically what I wanted to
say is that I have been teaching myself x-code / objective c this year

and also plan to run an iPhone / iPad dev course in 2013 - I would
love to collaborate on something if you are interested?

Cheers,
Adrian

Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed
eLearning Coordinator
Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141
Australia.
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On Behalf Of Travis Parker
Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 1:56 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)

Dear All,

Now that we have about 2250 iPads floating around the college, I was
thinking of implementing an "App Development" course at year 10 next
year that will run for a semester. We have also got a lab of 30 iMacs
and  was going to use them to create iPad apps (Using XCode???). I was

wondering whether anyone does anything similar to this currently, or
has any ideas on what to include. I'd be happy to share and compare
notes and experiences with any interested parties.

Cheers

Trav

Travis Parker
Head of ICT and E-Learning
Beaconhills College
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